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Horvat Stastny

Created by: franky_22
Initial Creation Date: Jun 20, 2019
Published: Jun 20, 2019 at 5:08 pm
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Team Explanation
4th Byram
10th Caufield
16th Newhook
17th Knight
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Graves, Ryan2$850,000
Compher, J.T.2$3,250,000
Greer, AJ2$850,000
Rantanen, Mikko8$9,750,000
Zadorov, Nikita6$4,500,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Panarin, Artemi7$11,000,000
Trades
COL
  1. Horvat, Bo
  2. 2019 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Calvert, Matt
  4. 2019 3rd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
extention in place for Barrie $8M X 8
COL
  1. Stastny, Paul
  2. Clarkson, David
  3. 2019 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Söderberg, Carl ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Andrighetto, Sven [RFA Rights]
  3. Kamenev, Vladislav [RFA Rights]
  4. Dries, Sheldon [RFA Rights]
  5. 2020 4th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Roslovic, Jack
WPG
  1. Nieto, Matt
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander [RFA Rights]
  2. 2019 7th round pick (COL)
Buyouts
  • Brooks Orpik: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Carl Söderberg: $2,000,000 (42.11%)
  • Tyson Barrie: $2,750,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
COL
OTT
VAN
VGK
EDM
COL
COL
COL
2020
COL
COL
COL
COL
FLA
COL
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,000,000$80,668,927$0$3,957,500$1,331,073
Left WingCenterRight Wing
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
$9,750,000
RW
UFA - 6
Panarin, Artemi
$11,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
VAN
Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 4
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,000,000
RW
RFA
COL
Jost, Tyson
$885,833
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
VGK
Stastny, Paul
$6,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
COL
Greer, AJ
$850,000
LW
RFA - 1
COL
Compher, J.T.
$3,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
COL
O'Connor, Logan
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Girard, Samuel
$728,333
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 2
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
COL
Zadorov, Nikita
$4,500,000
LD
RFA - 1
COL
Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
COL
Cole, Ian
$4,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
COL
Graves, Ryan
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1
COL
Barberio, Mark
$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
VGK
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:10
#1
Dr.
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 727
Likes: 200
Lol if you can get all those guys and 2 more firsts all the power to you
Jun 20, 2019 at 5:18
#2
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 370
No way Vancouver and Winnipeg accept those trades.
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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:21
#3
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 22,410
Likes: 3,845
Slim chance of Cole Caufield making it to #10 either Buffalo or Edmonton take him before that.
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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:22
#4
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 851
Likes: 306
People really need to realize that van is not trading Horvat in a deal that involves Barrie. The stupidity needs to end. Also good god that Van trade is crap.
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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:30
#5
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 456
Likes: 97
Quoting: BlueSeeker
People really need to realize that van is not trading Horvat in a deal that involves Barrie. The stupidity needs to end. Also good god that Van trade is crap.


Any Barrie trade for a player of Horvat's caliber would be contingent on an extension, it would have to be. As for the trade being crap, yeah it's a little muddy, but a 60 point center for a 60 point defenseman? I truly don't see how you can think that it's so lopsided. Take out all the extras (Van 1st, Kaut, etc.) and that's pretty damn even if there's an extension in place.

Don't go thinking that Avs fans are rushing to just give Barrie away. He's one of the best offensive defenseman in the league, and without a doubt the most underrated.
Jun 20, 2019 at 5:42
#6
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 851
Likes: 306
Quoting: Foppa21
Any Barrie trade for a player of Horvat's caliber would be contingent on an extension, it would have to be. As for the trade being crap, yeah it's a little muddy, but a 60 point center for a 60 point defenseman? I truly don't see how you can think that it's so lopsided. Take out all the extras (Van 1st, Kaut, etc.) and that's pretty damn even if there's an extension in place.

Don't go thinking that Avs fans are rushing to just give Barrie away. He's one of the best offensive defenseman in the league, and without a doubt the most underrated.


Barrie is in his prime and Horvat hasn't reached that yet. Horvat is kind of like Bergeron 2.0. He's a core piece that you build around. You are not suppose to trade away players like that just because "there is an extension in place" for a guy that is one year from becoming a UFA. Try to actually understand the position that Vancouver is in right now. The nucks are still rebuilding and not ready to compete yet, so it is plain stupid to trade for a guy in his prime when your other younger players haven't reached that point yet. You cant just say "me avs fan, horvat fill our need, we trade barrie and make van add because barrie better and extension". You have to look at both sides and say to yourself "does this make sense for both parties". If Van trades Horvat, who is going to be that reliable two way 2C for them? Are they suppose to just shove Gaudette in that role and hope everything works out?
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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:51
#7
JJ_91
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 56
Quoting: BlueSeeker
Barrie is in his prime and Horvat hasn't reached that yet. Horvat is kind of like Bergeron 2.0. He's a core piece that you build around. You are not suppose to trade away players like that just because "there is an extension in place" for a guy that is one year from becoming a UFA. Try to actually understand the position that Vancouver is in right now. The nucks are still rebuilding and not ready to compete yet, so it is plain stupid to trade for a guy in his prime when your other younger players haven't reached that point yet. You cant just say "me avs fan, horvat fill our need, we trade barrie and make van add because barrie better and extension". You have to look at both sides and say to yourself "does this make sense for both parties". If Van trades Horvat, who is going to be that reliable two way 2C for them? Are they suppose to just shove Gaudette in that role and hope everything works out?


Well done man. Great explanation. VAN is rebuilding as well. Ignoring the Horvat and Barrie exchange, no way we're trading out 10th OA pick unless we're moving up or gaining more pieces and moving down. Horvat is a fan favourite, captain material player. Barrie is a great RHD im gonna admit that, but we don't need him right now. We just re-signed Edler, we have Q.Hughes, who knows if we might go after Myers, but i know we have Woo coming up. A Bergeron type 2-way player is important than a offensive RHD.
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Jun 20, 2019 at 5:52
#8
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 456
Likes: 97
Quoting: BlueSeeker
Barrie is in his prime and Horvat hasn't reached that yet. Horvat is kind of like Bergeron 2.0. He's a core piece that you build around. You are not suppose to trade away players like that just because "there is an extension in place" for a guy that is one year from becoming a UFA. Try to actually understand the position that Vancouver is in right now. The nucks are still rebuilding and not ready to compete yet, so it is plain stupid to trade for a guy in his prime when your other younger players haven't reached that point yet. You cant just say "me avs fan, horvat fill our need, we trade barrie and make van add because barrie better and extension". You have to look at both sides and say to yourself "does this make sense for both parties". If Van trades Horvat, who is going to be that reliable two way 2C for them? Are they suppose to just shove Gaudette in that role and hope everything works out?


Not debating that at all, but you can't fault the guy or Avs fans at all for throwing out trade ideas when the mainstream media is saying that Benning is going after Barrie in a big way. As far as value goes, it's pretty damn even if you trade Barrie for Horvat, one for one. But yeah, I get that situation of not having a backup 2C or trading the guy that all 'Nucks fans see as the "heart and soul of the team." To be honest, I'm surprised that the Canucks were even mentioned when it came to a market for Barrie. That said, defensemen like Barrie don't just come along every day, and he's probably got a solid 6-7 years before he shows signs of slowing down.

Guess it depends what Benning sees in his current group. Barrie was seen as a piece of the core group less than a couple years ago. Things change pretty damn quickly in this league.
 
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