Both Hollowell and Borgman are better than Brickley

how do you know that ? Please share your source for making the judgment

What are you thinking with that NSH deal. Oh god that's bad.

My source is my scouting and watching games of those certain players during different ages and in different tournaments and leagues. With Borgman its easier since Brickley is same age as Borgman so we can compare easier. Borgman was playing NHL at 22yrs old and was really good with relatively bad D partner (Polak). Had really good transition numbers and was really good. He won rookie of the year in SHL (which is only won by great players!) and had fantastic seasons for young up and coming defenceman before making transition to NA. Should be in Leafs in lineup to start the season for absolute sure. Is good defensively, can create offence and he is that player who would fit more in NHL than AHL. Borgman is also better skater and transitional player than Brickley, Brickley might be better in some parts of the game but overall Borgman is better. Brickley was playing NCAA, had really good college career but transition to pro hockey did not go as well as it was imagined in his case. I dont know the numbers for his NHL games he played but I saw two of them and he did not look as good imo. Borgman >>> Brickley.

As for Hollowell. He is 20 and you cant really compare the two. Hollowell is offence-driving playmaking Dman like Torey Krug for example. He is amazing skater and really well-rounded Dman who is not as good defensively as Brickley but Brickley lacks offensively and Hollowell excells in creating offence from his own zone and in transition. Brickley can create some, but he is more defensive defenceman. In terms of development Brickley is further because he is 4yrs older but in terms overall talent and ceiling, Mac tops him.

You can agree or disagree with me, that is my opinion and my few years of watching them.

That Nashville trade might be the worst non troll trade I have ever seen here.

Jets have more cap issues than the Leafs, doubt if they want the more expensive Ceci. And that Nashville trade, Fabbro has shown he NHL capable. A RHD on a his ELC, ain't been traded.

Yea that Nashville trade is far from realistic. Fabbro is going to likely be the 2nd pair RD behind Ellis. Because of his play they felt comfortable trading away PK Subban. So you think the Leafs can get him for a 7th and 8th dman plus a 6th rounder. Never going to happen. They likely wouldn't do it for Kapanen 1 for 1.

as others have pointed out, the Nashville trade just isn't realistic.

Marincin - 27 years old. 1 year left till UFA and hasn't played more than 25 games in a season in the NHL since the 15-16 season.
Holl - 27 years old. 1 year left till UFA and has managed 13 NHL games

I wouldn't trade Toronto Matt Irwin for those two. He's atleast shown he's capable of stepping in for 50+ games a season as needed.

The 6th round pick does nothing to advance a deal.

loved the detail input, thanks

No problem