Quoting: Rusty_Shackelford
Point production is cyclical. 18/19 was a high water mark. 4 years ago Jamie Benn led the league with 87 points. There was 9 centers with more than 70 points that year. Toews has broken 70 points twice in his career. Might want to slow your roll on being upset with point production if the rest of his game is there. I'd be willing to bet you've never seen the kid play.
First of all, loving these debates, honestly. I love sports conversations like this.
Now, having brought up point production being cyclical, I will stand corrected. Dach will probably average 50-70, not 60-70, so I stand corrected there. Now, having brought up toews, let’s get an obvious statement out of the way. Kirby Dach IS NOT a two way center. Have they said he can strip pucks and put pressure on puck carriers, sure. But he has no where near the two way effort we get from toews and even hossa when he was still here. So comparing his point totals to toews is pointless since they’re not the same player. Dach is suppose to be pure offense, and I use “suppose” loosely.
You are right about this, I’ve never seen him LIVE. But I have seen many of the USNTDP players live. Turcotte in particular. I said at the draft that I wouldn’t have minded taking turcotte even though I wanted byram. Because having seen turcotte, he plays amazing two way hockey at such a high compete level AND can score like crazy. Plus, speeeeed. I love speed. So maybe I haven’t seen Dach. I’ve seen the videos, heard the stories, including him going missing for 15-20 games at one point.
So I’ll ask what I’ve been asking since the draft: someone please sell me on this kid! No one has even tried yet, and I’m always open to convincing. Tell me why this kid is so spectacular, cuz from what I’ve seen he can’t even out skate WHL players in north south foot races. So is he another Dylan Please somebody convince me, I’m desperate for some faith and am all ears.