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Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2019
Published: Aug. 5, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,250,000
2$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,750,000
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,846,667$0$2,220,000$653,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:01 p.m.
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Yep, Ottawa just might the only team that has the cap for 6m X 2, But sure would love to hear the rationale why Backes, an American, on a perennial contender, would waive his M NTC for Ottawa.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:02 p.m.
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Yep, Ottawa just might the only team that has the cap for 6m X 2, But sure would love to hear the rationale why Backes, an American, on a perennial contender, would waive his M NTC for Ottawa.


So he doesn’t have to play for providence....
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:04 p.m.
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Think you have the terms backwards on the rfa Dmen deals...
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
So he doesn’t have to play for providence....


He might prefer Providence to Ottawa . But even sending him to Providence doesn't really help the Bruins cap much if at all. It's still a 4.925m cap hit and then they need player to replace Backes. Lets say 775,000, so that's 5.7m of cap hit. And is the replacement better than Backes?
Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:12 p.m.
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from a senators perspective i would love that trade
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Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:22 p.m.
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I believe 2 years for Carlo takes him to 5 years and UFA status, I might be wrong. I see McAvoy getting 2 years bridge around 6m to improve numbers to get that 7.25m. Backes did bring 30+pts on the 3rd line last year, I don't think there willing to give up a 1st to get rid of him.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:26 p.m.
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He might prefer Providence to Ottawa . But even sending him to Providence doesn't really help the Bruins cap much if at all. It's still a 4.925m cap hit and then they need player to replace Backes. Lets say 775,000, so that's 5.7m of cap hit. And is the replacement better than Backes?


Do you really think Backes wants to bounce around on a bus for hours?

Regardless of what they save... the option is there.
Aug. 5, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
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from a senators perspective i would love that trade


I don't. Kampfer is a fringe NHL player at best, and Senyshyn hasn't shown much of anything offensively since turning pro.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:16 a.m.
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I don't. Kampfer is a fringe NHL player at best, and Senyshyn hasn't shown much of anything offensively since turning pro.


It's a first, a prospect, and Boston is taking on a bad contract, huge wine for Ottawa
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:16 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
He might prefer Providence to Ottawa . But even sending him to Providence doesn't really help the Bruins cap much if at all. It's still a 4.925m cap hit and then they need player to replace Backes. Lets say 775,000, so that's 5.7m of cap hit. And is the replacement better than Backes?


They have 25 players on the roster, they get the full 1M savings
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:30 a.m.
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They have 25 players on the roster, they get the full 1M savings


That’s not how that works...
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:33 a.m.
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That’s not how that works...


They don't have to replace him with anyone because they already have too many players on the roster, so it won't be 1M minus 750k, it'll be the full 1M.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:38 a.m.
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They don't have to replace him with anyone because they already have too many players on the roster, so it won't be 1M minus 750k, it'll be the full 1M.


The idea of replacement cost is based on the in season roster when Boston has it trimmed down to 23 players. If you keep Backes he will be on the 23 man roster. If you don’t someone else will take his place.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:38 a.m.
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He might prefer Providence to Ottawa . But even sending him to Providence doesn't really help the Bruins cap much if at all. It's still a 4.925m cap hit and then they need player to replace Backes. Lets say 775,000, so that's 5.7m of cap hit. And is the replacement better than Backes?


You think backes would prefer Providence to Ottawa? L M F A O O O. Providence could go 76-0 and win the Calder cup every year and there’s still no way in hell backes would rather play for them than Ottawa. Do you even know half the benefits players get from playing in the NHL instead of the AHL? Educate yourself
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
The idea of replacement cost is based on the in season roster when Boston has it trimmed down to 23 players. If you keep Backes he will be on the 23 man roster. If you don’t someone else will take his place.


Fair enough but if you trim down to 23 players, you'll have closer to 9.5M in cap room which is plenty to sign Carlo/McAvoy
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Jiannuccilli
You think backes would prefer Providence to Ottawa? L M F A O O O. Providence could go 76-0 and win the Calder cup every year and there’s still no way in hell backes would rather play for them than Ottawa. Do you even know half the benefits players get from playing in the NHL instead of the AHL? Educate yourself


Glad you know Backes so well, and so you are trying to educate us all. OK justify a crappy trade all you want. Bruins would still have a non value players with three years on his contract.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:09 a.m.
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He might prefer Providence to Ottawa . But even sending him to Providence doesn't really help the Bruins cap much if at all. It's still a 4.925m cap hit and then they need player to replace Backes. Lets say 775,000, so that's 5.7m of cap hit. And is the replacement better than Backes?


yes. the answer flat out is yes. kuhlman/steen/studnicka/bjork/ literally anyone who can still skate is better than backes at this point.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:33 a.m.
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Glad you know Backes so well, and so you are trying to educate us all. OK justify a crappy trade all you want. Bruins would still have a non value players with three years on his contract.


You don’t have to personally know somebody to have common sense...it’s like asking somebody if they want to take a Ferrari or a horse chariot to work every day
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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yes. the answer flat out is yes. kuhlman/steen/studnicka/bjork/ literally anyone who can still skate is better than backes at this point.


I'm thinking back to the Leafs and Robidas. He played one season for the Leafs, broke his leg early in the season two....LTIR. But the LTIR continued into year three of his contract.
He was deemed "not fit". Was he not fit from the broken leg, or was it just the natural aging process? I assumed the league said the said it was symptoms of the broken leg.
So, we get in the the unknown definition of the league considers LTIR. Is Backes "slowing down" a condition of his concussions and other injuries, or just the natural aging process?
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:56 a.m.
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I'm thinking back to the Leafs and Robidas. He played one season for the Leafs, broke his leg early in the season two....LTIR. But the LTIR continued into year three of his contract.
He was deemed "not fit". Was he not fit from the broken leg, or was it just the natural aging process? I assumed the league said the said it was symptoms of the broken leg.
So, we get in the the unknown definition of the league considers LTIR. Is Backes "slowing down" a condition of his concussions and other injuries, or just the natural aging process?


Both. On one hand, he has had some frightening concussions. Which doesnt help your body as you get older. Also Backes heavy brand of hockey, all of those hits as well have added up over the course of his career. He was never the fastest guy to begin with. As he gets older he just cant compete like he could a few years ago. Its happening to Wayne Simmonds as well. It sucks to witness but he is likely done as an effective NHL player.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Yep, Ottawa just might the only team that has the cap for 6m X 2, But sure would love to hear the rationale why Backes, an American, on a perennial contender, would waive his M NTC for Ottawa.


if he wants to play in the nhl he'll wave
Aug. 6, 2019 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
if he wants to play in the nhl he'll wave


I guess we get into the debate whether the Senators are a NHL team.sarcasm Two years in Ottawa and the uprooting of the family etc, I just wonder if Providence is a better option for Backes. And it's almost guaranteed that Backes will be on LTIR at some time and home in Boston whether he plays in Ottawa, Boston or Providence. Then there still is the debate is the trade worth the 750,000 cap savings to the Bruins for two years, to give up those assets, plus they have Ryan for a third season at 5.25m
Aug. 6, 2019 at 11:58 a.m.
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I believe 2 years for Carlo takes him to 5 years and UFA status, I might be wrong. I see McAvoy getting 2 years bridge around 6m to improve numbers to get that 7.25m. Backes did bring 30+pts on the 3rd line last year, I don't think there willing to give up a 1st to get rid of him.


5 years does not grant UFA status. 7 years does.

6 mil is way too much for McAvoy on a bridge. Look at history of group 1 RFA contracts

Backes only had 20 points last year, but you’re right its not worth giving up a 2020 first to dump him
Aug. 6, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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It's a first, a prospect, and Boston is taking on a bad contract, huge wine for Ottawa


Boedker is barely a bad contract. He's slightly overpaid, but Ottawa could still get a 2nd or a 3rd for him if they retain.
 
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