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Knocking San Jose out

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Aug 15, 2019
Published: Aug 15 at 10:12 am
Team: 2019-20 Arizona Coyotes
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Dvorak, Christian
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Grabner, Michael
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Richardson, Brad
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
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Hjalmarsson, Niklas
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Raanta, Antti
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Chychrun, Jakob
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Oesterle, Jordan
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Lyubushkin, Ilya
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Aug 15 at 10:13
#1
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Your’e a funny guy man. If anyone goes it’s vegas
Aug 15 at 10:14
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KFTW
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Quoting: papishark
Your’e a funny guy man. If anyone goes it’s vegas


Lol no way.
Calgary, Vegas and Arizona/Vancouver will make it. SJ will finish in the lottery and give us the pick wink
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Aug 15 at 10:15
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Quoting: papishark
Your’e a funny guy man. If anyone goes it’s vegas


Losing Pavelski, Thorton (maybe not but still) and Nyquist won't hurt you ?
Aug 15 at 10:15
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Martin Jones has this under control already.
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Aug 15 at 10:16
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Quoting: csick
Lol no way.
Calgary, Vegas and Arizona/Vancouver will make it. SJ will finish in the lottery and give us the pick wink


How about we bet on it? Life savings down
Aug 15 at 10:16
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Those lines tho ...
Aug 15 at 10:16
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Quoting: KCarry74
Losing Pavelski, Thorton (maybe not but still) and Nyquist won't hurt you ?


And Donskoi. And having Jones in net still. SJ is an easy contender to miss the yoffs
Aug 15 at 10:16
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Quoting: feds91stammer
And Donskoi. And having Jones in net still. SJ is an easy contender to miss the yoffs


Didnt think of Donskoi. You're right. Thanks!
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Aug 15 at 10:17
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Quoting: papishark
How about we bet on it? Life savings down


How about if SJ misses the playoffs you delete your account.
Aug 15 at 10:17
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Quoting: KCarry74
Losing Pavelski, Thorton (maybe not but still) and Nyquist won't hurt you ?


Especially if Karlsson isn't healthy or gets injured again. This team could be 10th-20th in GF and 22-27 in GA. That's not good enough to make the playoffs
Aug 15 at 10:17
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Quoting: Poehling
Those lines tho ...


Im no Arizona fan haha
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Aug 15 at 10:19
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Quoting: csick
Especially if Karlsson isn't healthy or gets injured again. This team could be 10th-20th in GF and 22-27 in GA. That's not good enough to make the playoffs


i think they'll fight for a playoff spot but miss it by 4-5 points
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Aug 15 at 10:20
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Quoting: KCarry74
Losing Pavelski, Thorton (maybe not but still) and Nyquist won't hurt you ?

It could, but we are still much better than this team
Aug 15 at 10:20
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Quoting: KCarry74
Didnt think of Donskoi. You're right. Thanks!


Also, Meier and Labanc had career years. What if they take a step back with a bit less talent around them.
Aug 15 at 10:20
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Quoting: feds91stammer
How about if SJ misses the playoffs you delete your account.

Deal, if they make it you delete yours
Aug 15 at 10:21
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Quoting: papishark
Deal, if they make it you delete yours


Ill delete my Csick123 account wink
Aug 15 at 10:26
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Quoting: papishark
It could, but we are still much better than this team


Hate to break it out to you but Ari had 86 points and are only getting better. Let's say they are not as injured as last year (one of the top injured team), they are now to what ? 96 points ? Keller gets out of his ''slump'' it's not a 100 points. Sharks had 101 with a better team last year. What makes you think SJ will make more than a 100 pts ?

CGY won't change
VGK neither
VAN is getting better

DAL, STL, WPG, NAS. COL are all better too
Aug 15 at 10:28
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Quoting: KCarry74
Hate to break it out to you but Ari had 86 points and are only getting better. Let's say they are not as injured as last year (one of the top injured team), they are now to what ? 96 points ? Keller gets out of his ''slump'' it's not a 100 points. Sharks had 101 with a better team last year. What makes you think SJ will make more than a 100 pts ?

CGY won't change
VGK neither
VAN is getting better

DAL, STL, WPG, NAS. COL are all better too


yeah id put money the central gets all the WC positions
Aug 15 at 10:30
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Quoting: csick
yeah id put money the central gets all the WC positions


yup. Also, can't see CHI do worse than last year. IMO, the fight will be between : DAL, CHI, SJ for the last spot. DAL will get it
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Aug 15 at 10:31
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Quoting: KCarry74
yup. Also, can't see CHI do worse than last year. IMO, the fight will be between : DAL, CHI, SJ for the last spot. DAL will get it


St Louis, Colorado, Nashville as divisions leaders. Dallas and Chicago as WC. Winnipeg falls out
Aug 15 at 10:32
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Quoting: KCarry74
Hate to break it out to you but Ari had 86 points and are only getting better. Let's say they are not as injured as last year (one of the top injured team), they are now to what ? 96 points ? Keller gets out of his ''slump'' it's not a 100 points. Sharks had 101 with a better team last year. What makes you think SJ will make more than a 100 pts ?

CGY won't change
VGK neither
VAN is getting better

DAL, STL, WPG, NAS. COL are all better too


I don’t know if you realize but San Jose has the best d man in the league who was injured last year back this year. As long as Karlsson, Meier and Labanc can help replace Pavelskis goals we are fine.
Aug 15 at 10:33
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Quoting: papishark
I don’t know if you realize but San Jose has the best d man in the league who was injured last year back this year. As long as Karlsson, Meier and Labanc can help replace Pavelskis goals we are fine.


Karlsson will miss games this year again sorry bro. Labanc and Meier were there last year too. Can't argue that SJ is worse than last year, we all know it. My point here is that other teams improved.
Aug 15 at 10:35
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Quoting: papishark
I don’t know if you realize but San Jose has the best d man in the league who was injured last year back this year. As long as Karlsson, Meier and Labanc can help replace Pavelskis goals we are fine.


Im a Sens fan and I know all about your defense. I remember that game where Vegas scored 3 goals in the first 5 mins and I was like that defense cant stop a fast team and you cant trust Jones. And these guys are all getting older, cant see them stopping any fast skilled team. That defense is great on the offensive side but on the defensive side, not so much. Also, I watched Karlsson last year and he didn't look the same at all in any game
Aug 15 at 11:03
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This is a funny post. SJ did lose Pavelski. However Donskoi didn't score a goal for multiple months and was a healthy scratch (though he's fun to watch and I think he'll do well in COL). Jumbo is coming back supposedly. Nyquist was only there for the rental.

The real missing piece is Pavelskis leadership/points. However, with Pavelski gone, they're not as slow up front.

This team also gave up a goal in the first 5 minutes of a period 50+ times this year. Hard to see that happening again.

They lost goals/points for sure, but I think they can replace some of that with internal adjustments and prospects. Plus, I think they'll be far better defensively this year.
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Aug 15 at 11:05
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Quoting: goodfella
This is a funny post. SJ did lose Pavelski. However Donskoi didn't score a goal for multiple months and was a healthy scratch (though he's fun to watch and I think he'll do well in COL). Jumbo is coming back supposedly. Nyquist was only there for the rental.

The real missing piece is Pavelskis leadership/points. However, with Pavelski gone, they're not as slow up front.

This team also gave up a goal in the first 5 minutes of a period 50+ times this year. Hard to see that happening again.

They lost goals/points for sure, but I think they can replace some of that with internal adjustments and prospects. Plus, I think they'll be far better defensively this year.


So, Karlsson and Burns are getting better defensively at this stage in their careers? And Jones trained hard this summer on his mental toughness and bouncing pucks?
 
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