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Laine trade with Montreal

Created by: CapFriendlysFinest
Initial Creation Date: Sep 5, 2019
Published: Sep 5, 2019 at 1:38 pm
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Connor, Kyle5$7,000,000
Laine, Patrik3$7,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marleau, Patrick1$1,000,000
Hayes, Jimmy1$700,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Suzuki, Nick
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. Tatar, Tomas
  4. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Copp, Andrew
WPG
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Tatar, Tomas
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
MTL
WPG
EDM
WPG
WPG
WPG
2021
WPG
MTL
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$74,889,164$0$292,500$6,610,836
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 7
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
UFA - 5
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,666
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Marleau, Patrick
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$741,667
RW, C
RFA - 1
WPG
Bourque, Gabriel
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$3,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Byfuglien, Dustin
$7,600,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 5
WPG
Kulikov, Dmitry
$4,333,333
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$720,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Niku, Sami
$775,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
Hayes, Jimmy
$700,000
RW
UFA

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Sep 5, 2019 at 1:41
#1
Subbanator
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why would any team give Winnipeg that type of value when you can offer sheet him to a max offer and give up less then that?
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:43
#2
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
why would any team give Winnipeg that type of value when you can offer sheet him to a max offer and give up less then that?


Jets can match the offer, and again, Laine has to sign the offer sheet too.
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:43
#3
DomCholette
Joined: Jul 2017
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Remove 2020 1st as it is host in MTL... and the deal is fair IMO
Winnipeg would do it and Montreal should do it
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:44
#4
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 1,420
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Tatar value= 1st pick and more
Suzuki value= 1st pick
Lek value= 2nd pick and more
2 x 1st...
So, do you reilly think that the Laine's value is more than 4 1st pick, almost 5???flushed cheeks
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:44
#5
Thread Starter
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Quoting: DomCholette
Remove 2020 1st as it is host in MTL... and the deal is fair IMO
Winnipeg would do it and Montreal should do it


Yeah no, Laine is a generational scoring talent and only getting one first from a team would be a shame
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:49
#6
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
Jets can match the offer, and again, Laine has to sign the offer sheet too.


His trade value isn't as high as four 1st round picks though. He is one dimensional who spent most of last season on the 3rd line, outside of his goal totals he doesn't have any stats that make him elite. Thinking you're getting multiple elite pieces for him is the wrong way to think.
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:50
#7
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,159
Likes: 382
Quoting: yanp007
Tatar value= 1st pick and more
Suzuki value= 1st pick
Lek value= 2nd pick and more
2 x 1st...
So, do you reilly think that the Laine's value is more than 4 1st pick, almost 5???flushed cheeks


Lmao you think mtl would be the best team in the league the way you evaluate your players. Yikes
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:52
#8
Subbanator
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Lmao you think mtl would be the best team in the league the way you evaluate your players. Yikes


That's not even off in value....Lehkonen is the only questionable value he has listed.
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:53
#9
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,159
Likes: 382
Quoting: Subbanator7667
That's not even off in value....Lehkonen is the only questionable value he has listed.


Tru mtl is nasty!
Sep 5, 2019 at 1:57
#10
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
why would any team give Winnipeg that type of value when you can offer sheet him to a max offer and give up less then that?


Is there any player that is worth the kind of massive cap hit it would take to sign him and also give up 4 1st rounders? Does anyone want to pay a flawed player, albeit exceptional goal scorer, a max offer sheet? If its that simple, why hasn't it happened?
Subbanator7667 liked this.
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:00
#11
Subbanator
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Is there any player that is worth the kind of massive cap hit it would take to sign him and also give up 4 1st rounders? Does anyone want to pay a flawed player, albeit exceptional goal scorer, a max offer sheet? If its that simple, why hasn't it happened?


just driving my point home. Why give up more value then 4 first round picks and the cap hit to trade for him if he isn't worth the offer sheet
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:00
#12
best poster
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montreal trade is probably close to what winnipeg would want in return. however, if you're trading for him you'd be looking at a long term contract.

don't believe he's getting traded either.
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:21
#13
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
just driving my point home. Why give up more value then 4 first round picks and the cap hit to trade for him if he isn't worth the offer sheet


That isn't the right way to look at it though. OS don't make a lot of sense because the cost is insane. Giving up 4 1st round picks is a terrible idea in this day and age, you need to fill depth positions with high skill young players who are cheap, your best odds of making those sort of picks is in the 1st round. So on top of gutting your chances of getting cheap homegrown depth, you also now have to fit a massive cap hit without moving anything out. If you have bad contracts on your squad (most teams do), you have to pay to move those once in a cap bind. So trading for these young stars and signing them after makes a lot more sense.
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:22
#14
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Is there any player that is worth the kind of massive cap hit it would take to sign him and also give up 4 1st rounders? Does anyone want to pay a flawed player, albeit exceptional goal scorer, a max offer sheet? If its that simple, why hasn't it happened?


Cause no one has cap space to make an offersheet, no one has cap space to take cap dumps and some teams have big rfa's to sign next season so adding at least $7 million now might not seem worth it to teams who have RFA'S to sign next summer.
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:28
#15
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
Yeah no, Laine is a generational scoring talent and only getting one first from a team would be a shame


Suzuki, Tatar, Petry and a 2021 1st?
Sep 10, 2019 at 5:14
#16
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Worst AGM i have ever seen
 
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