Lets say Leafs say F you to Mitch if he doesnt sign 10x6 and theyll sit him

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Created by: SammyT_51

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 9, 2019

Published: Sep. 9, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Neuvirth, Michal		1	$700,000

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$74,633,032	$0	$615,000	$6,866,968

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Bracco, Jeremy $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) RW UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Engvall, Pierre $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Åberg, Pontus $700,000$700,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Gravel, Kevin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3	Neuvirth, Michal $700,000$700,000 G UFA

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Petan, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Kivihalme, Teemu $792,500$792,500 ($132,500$132K) LD UFA - 1	Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Nylander, W.		Tavares, J.		Matthews, A.
	Rielly, M.		Bracco, J.

Power Play 2
Mikheyev, I.		Spezza, J.		Johnsson, A.
	Barrie, T.		Kerfoot, A.

Penalty Kill 1
	Tavares, J.	Kapanen, K.
	Muzzin, J.	Liljegren, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Engvall, P.	Moore, T.
	Gravel, K.	Ceci, C.

Sep. 9, 2019 at 12:41 p.m.

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I think they basically already have. I'm glad Dubas has been fair but not buckled in these negotiations. Hopefully, he does not prove me wrong.

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Sep. 9, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.

GenXHockey

Formerly Jamiepo

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Personally I see a 3 year term coming in the 8-9m range. 10m x 6 I think is more than fair.

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Sep. 9, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.

palhal

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Sammy, the Leafs arent't going to telling Marner, FU, but they have "told" him, "Don't like our offer, you're welcome to sign to with another team." The Leafs "won't sit Marner". Again it's Marner's choice to choose a contract from many teams, in many leagues. If Marner doesn't play in the NHL or pro hockey this season, it's his choice, not the Leafs.

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Sep. 9, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.

oldmanhockey

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Man I live in Toronto and we have some passionate fans. However they are a fickle bunch. They love guys like Brad Smith, Hyman etc and turn on Real talent such as Marner. Im not related to the kid dont even know him. However IM on his side more than ever that he deserves Mathews and Tavares money.
Last three years stats for all three ;
Marner Matthews Tavares
gp g a pts +/- gp g a pts +/- gp g a pts +/-
82 26 68 94 +22 68 37 36 73 -9 82 47 41 86 +19
82 22 47 69 -1 62 34 29 63 +25 82 37 47 84 -12
77 19 46 61 even 82 40 29 69 +2 77 28 38 66 +4

I dont see a big difference between any of them. Marner kills penalties, Matthews doesn't all play pp time. Marner has been the teams leading scorer for last two seasons. I hope they win in my lifetime but we have to stop being so fickle. Talent wins cups effort wins games.

Sep. 9, 2019 at 5:41 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: oldmanhockey

Man I live in Toronto and we have some passionate fans. However they are a fickle bunch.

We get into this endless argument about Matthews contract. Sure the Leafs overpaid for Matthews (and Nylander) but that doesn't mean they have to continue to overpay their RFAs.
Just like a team that has managed to get "team friendly" deals from a couple of players, doesn't mean that other players for that team has to tow that line and forever the team gets team friendly deals.
Leafs competition for Marner is other NHL teams and what they are offering Marner in a an offer sheet...not Matthews.
Aho and Marner have had identical stats in the past two years and may be value for their team. Aho signed for 8.45m X 5. Now I think the Leafs offer more, but 8.45m is long way from 11.6m. I just don't see Marner getting 11m maybe not even 10.5m X 5. Again what is Marner's leverage except to without his services from the Leafs (and every other NHL team?). Not signing an NHL contract doesn't get him 11m or 8, or even 3m

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Sep. 9, 2019 at 6:09 p.m.

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Quoting: palhal

Amen, brother! Btw did you have a chance to check out my reply to you in the previous post? I only ask because I enjoy talking baseball with open-minded people.. If not no biggie.

Sep. 9, 2019 at 6:10 p.m.

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Quoting: oldmanhockey

We aren't a fickle bunch we just want what's fair. No more no less.

Sep. 9, 2019 at 6:12 p.m.

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Quoting: Jamiepo

Personally I see a 3 year term coming in the 8-9m range. 10m x 6 I think is more than fair.

IMO 6 works better for both sides as Marner can see what Mathews and Nylander get on their new contracts, and JT's money comes off the books at the same time.

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