Do you think he knows who Nelson Mandela is yet?

so the wings do the leafs a favor... take on ceci, foooor? petan a 4th and a 7th? why? Most will agree ceci is already over paid and isnt that great. so why are they taking a serviceable asset from the wings for really not a whole lot?

Mandela is one of the great athletes of his time, Right?

Toronto can keep Cici or offer better draft picks because he is nothing more than a cap dump. Do you really think he will resign in Detroit?

- Detroit is actively trying to tank this year. So then why trade for ceci. It would make more sense for them to ask for liljegren instead of ceci... the only reason ceci is included in the deal is to offset berniers cap it.
- Bernier isn't a goalie to build around, but he's better than Cal Pickard, or whoever they want to call up. And his contract is up in a couple years anyway, he'll be 33, he's definitely not part of the futire. The should be getting rid of him one way or another anyway. - Agreed
- Ceci is at least an NHL player. Even based on his play in Ottawa the last couple years he'd be the 3rd or 4th best player on Detroit's blue line, based on his numbers in TO he'd be #1. I wouldn't expect him to keep it up, but I'd expect him to be pretty much interchangeable with anyone in the top 4. It's also only for one year. - See above.
- Petan is a serviceable player, but will never get to play in Toronto. He's better suited to a top 6 role IMO. If they want to use him there, he'd fit in fine, if they want to tank as hard as possible while hanging onto an RFA with some potential, he's already cleared waivers this season. - Petan is a quantity filler throw in. probably wont be anything more than 3rd line AT BEST if he can even get that. I know bernier isnt good but this is a laughable proposal for a team that is looking to acquire draft capital and young assets.

Another route they could go down is taking on Johan Franzen's LTIR contract. But Detroit doesn't actually need that space right now so I don't know how much that would matter to them.

It would make more sense for them to ask for liljegren instead of ceci... the only reason ceci is included in the deal is to offset berniers cap it.

Of course he is! Everyone knows that

I'm open to it. Or a prospect of some kind. But he would actually be one of Detroit's best, if not their best, blueliner. Or if he reverts to his worst Ottawa days, he's still better than about half the blue line. Either way, Bernier isn't part of the future, losing him would probably help the tank job, pick up a few extra picks and a young guy with some potential on a cheap two-year deal that has been buried on good teams so far (and who has already cleared waivers this year if they want to hang on until next year).

I like the idea of playing with 23 man roster, but trading Ceci without any NHL capable replacement is not the solution. Holl and Marincin as full time regulars? And what happens when there is another injury on defence?
This distain for Ceci is really unfounded. It's more a of a ACGM fascination that started in July. He certainly hasn't been the worse Leaf Dman through the first eight games.