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Goalie solution

Created by: justaBoss
Team: 2019-20 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 4, 2019
Published: Nov. 4, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
ARI
  1. Dell, Aaron
  2. Karlsson, Melker
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (SJS)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$71,117,417$660,750$197,500$10,382,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 8
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$836,667$836,667 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,635,000$1,635,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$675,000$675,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$960,000$960,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$768,333$768,333 (Performance Bonus$65,000$65K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$735,000$735,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 4, 2019 at 6:36 p.m.
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MisstheWhalers
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Makes sense, not sure the Coyotes would want to help the Sharks out though.
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Nov. 4, 2019 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Makes sense, not sure the Coyotes would want to help the Sharks out though.


I never understood this. If I am making a trade it is to help my team. I don't care what it does for the other team, and I don't care who the other team is.
Nov. 4, 2019 at 7:11 p.m.
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I never understood this. If I am making a trade it is to help my team. I don't care what it does for the other team, and I don't care who the other team is.


Maybe you don't but NHL GM's definitely do, you can see it in a lot of moves GM's make and it limits the returns from some guys, McPhee traded Haula and
C. Miller for peanuts but part of that's cause he prefers to not deal within his own conference, when you limit who you're willing to deal with it limits the return.

And this trade as proposed here, if you were Chayka would you seriously trade one of your goalies to your direct competition that could potentially keep you from getting into the playoffs? No you wouldn't, if that trade worked out for the Sharks and the Coyotes miss the playoffs you'd be out of a job and that trade would be a big reason why, very few GM's are gonna take that risk and certainly not for a couple picks, a struggling backup and a very average bottom 6 winger, not one in Chaykas situation anyway.
Nov. 4, 2019 at 7:31 p.m.
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If Arizona trades Raanta, I think it's much more likely to be to Columbus or Detroit or Ottawa for draft picks, and I don't think Stevie Y is big on trading draft picks.
Nov. 4, 2019 at 7:48 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Maybe you don't but NHL GM's definitely do, you can see it in a lot of moves GM's make and it limits the returns from some guys, McPhee traded Haula and
C. Miller for peanuts but part of that's cause he prefers to not deal within his own conference, when you limit who you're willing to deal with it limits the return.

And this trade as proposed here, if you were Chayka would you seriously trade one of your goalies to your direct competition that could potentially keep you from getting into the playoffs? No you wouldn't, if that trade worked out for the Sharks and the Coyotes miss the playoffs you'd be out of a job and that trade would be a big reason why, very few GM's are gonna take that risk and certainly not for a couple picks, a struggling backup and a very average bottom 6 winger, not one in Chaykas situation anyway.


You make a trade because it makes you better.
Nov. 4, 2019 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
You make a trade because it makes you better.


GMs are terrified of helping teams in their division. Not saying its the right thing, but its how it is. Sharks would have to really overpay if they want Raanta
Nov. 4, 2019 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Yojimbo
You make a trade because it makes you better.


Sure but how does Dell, M. Karlsson and two picks make the Coyotes better then having Raanta?
Nov. 5, 2019 at 12:19 a.m.
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I doubt the yotes would help out a team they are going to be competing for a playoff spot with. Even if they do accept it doesn’t make sense for the sharks to lock in $10 million in 2 mediocre goalies. Georgiev from the rangers would make more sense IMO. He’s young, good, and you’d be able to sign him to a cheap bridge deal in the summer. I’d rather do that than trade for a mediocre goalie that can’t stay healthy.
 
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