RUMORS Subban to BUF per Elliott Friedman

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Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 2, 2020

Published: Jan. 2, 2020

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Subban, P.K. ($1,500,000 retained)

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Toffoli, Tyler ($2,300,000 retained)

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Smith, C.J.
Thompson, Tage
2020 4th round pick (BUF)

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Gorniak, Jack [Reserve List]
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McShane, Allan [Reserve List]

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Bonino, Nick

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Miller, Colin

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$73,041,667	$0	$3,465,000	$8,458,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Olofsson, Victor $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 7	Reinhart, Sam $3,650,000$3,650,000 RW UFA - 1
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Johansson, Marcus $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Toffoli, Tyler $2,300,000$2,300,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Bonino, Nick $4,100,000$4,100,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Sheary, Conor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Vesey, Jimmy $2,275,000$2,275,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Girgensons, Zemgus $1,600,000$1,600,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Larsson, Johan $1,550,000$1,550,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LD/RD UFA - 2	Montour, Brandon $3,387,500$3,387,500 RD UFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus $1,325,000$1,325,000 G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Subban, P.K. $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Scandella, Marco $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 2	Kinkaid, Keith $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Bogosian, Zach $1,300,000$1,300,000 RD UFA - 1		Hunwick, Matt $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 1
Asplund, Rasmus $845,000$845,000 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 2
Lazar, Curtis $700,000$700,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.

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Shibbal18

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Quoting: Ristoeichel

If this is true, it’s likely futures/ cap space move for NJ, especially if they really would rather have McCabe or Pilut.

Botterill seems to like this kind of deals, taking on big or bad deals to acquire talent...:he did it with Sheary (Hunwick), Scandella (Pominville), and In the ROR deal (Berglund and Sobotka)

But I’d have to imagine a forward from NJ would be apart of the trade.

Subban is still a decent possession driver and I think I still better in his own end than Ristolainen

NJ has cap space, so I don't see that. Maybe Zajac for Bogo. Same cap basically but Bogo is done after this season and they dont have Zajac taking up a top 9 spot

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.

#27

Shibbal18

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

That's the premise of this post . . . and your earlier comment . . .

I never said Risto. Sabres have a lot of dmen to move, Risto isnt one of them

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.

#28

Shibbal18

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Quoting: mhockey91

Risto is very overrated. I get Subban is struggling, but Risto isn't any better

Risto has been great under Kreuger, as I said would happen

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.

#29

mhockey91

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Ristolainen is in his best season yet, doubt he gets moved at all

advanced stats say differently

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.

#30

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Shibbal18

I never said Risto. Sabres have a lot of dmen to move, Risto isnt one of them

Yes, you did. The post advances a rumor of a trade by which Buffalo sends Ristolainen and Thompson to New Jersey for P. K. Subban. You responded with a comment countering the New Jersey part by saying you thought the player coming back was Zajac, Zacha or Palmieri. Your silence on the Buffalo side means you accept that part of the premise. That's the way English works. If you'd said "Buffalo wouldn't trade Ristolainen; a more likely trade is Bogosian for Zajac, Zacha or Palmieri," that would be different.

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:27 p.m.

#31

Shibbal18

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

No, i was countering the rumor that Buffalo was interested in Subban. My comment above it already called the rumor garbage, so im guessing you just missed that. Friedman put in his 31 thoughts that NJ was looking at Buffalos D. I said depending which dman, Botterill would want Zajac, Zacha, or Palmieri

OldNYIfan liked this.

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:28 p.m.

#32

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Fine. That makes sense.

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.

#33

Shibbal18

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Quoting: mhockey91

advanced stats say differently

Which, the offensive ones you posted, SKATR?

Jan. 2, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.

#34

ZiggyPalffy

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Quoting: wojme

I smell BS

I smell farts, but they aren't mine.

Jan. 2, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.

#35

mhockey91

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Which, the offensive ones you posted, SKATR?

yes SKATR by bill Comeau. its a good tool

Jan. 2, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.

#36

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Subban is on a downward spiral, If Botts gave up Risto for Subban he'd be fired immediately.

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