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2020-21 season with MTL trade and no buff and little

Created by: tsyls
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2020
Published: Jan. 10, 2020
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I’m living in Lala land, oh wouldn’t it be nice to have a 2c for the future and not be trading for rentals every year :)

Wheeler is allowed to go back to wing and preserve his body, he looked burnt out at C. Probably why copp has been on the 2nd line recently.

Buff retires after losing arb case and lives happily ever after fishing and hunting.

Little sustains another concussion after he returns February 2020 and heads to LTIR to retire.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,142,857
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
2$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
1$1,550,000
1$850,000
1$875,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Domi comes with 7 x 7,142,857 extension

Deal is done at 2020 TDL
MTL
  1. Niku, Sami [RFA Rights]
  2. Spacek, Michael [RFA Rights]
  3. Stanley, Logan
  4. Vesalainen, Kristian
  5. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (WPG)
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2nd is conditional (if Jets win the SCF in 2020 or 2021 it becomes 2021 1st. If neither conditions are met it stays a 2nd in 2021)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$84,000,000$76,330,715$0$132,500$7,669,285

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,995,000$4,995,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
$7,142,857$7,142,857
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,280,000$2,280,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,916,667$2,916,667
C
UFA - 1
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$817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LD
RFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$875,000$875,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$7,600,000$7,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$875,000$875,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Mtl definitely accepts, lots of quantity with a good chance to turn into quality and a 1st rounder in a deep draft with a bunch of value. Vital longterm deal to domi to make it make any sense, just not sure he’s signing longterm in wpg, that quick but ya never know.
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Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Birtle34
Mtl definitely accepts, lots of quantity with a good chance to turn into quality and a 1st rounder in a deep draft with a bunch of value. Vital longterm deal to domi to make it make any sense, just not sure he’s signing longterm in wpg, that quick but ya never know.


Well let me just make some lines:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Vesalainen
Byron - Thompson? - Kovalchuk?
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Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Birtle34
Mtl definitely accepts, lots of quantity with a good chance to turn into quality and a 1st rounder in a deep draft with a bunch of value. Vital longterm deal to domi to make it make any sense, just not sure he’s signing longterm in wpg, that quick but ya never know.


I mean, born here, would probably live to play with ehlers and wheeler. Gets a chance to win instantly and into the future. Also probably gets paid more than what he would by MTL. I think it’s a solid trade for both sides. Jets have to give up a lot but to get a 2c with an extension in place would be amazing.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Well let me just make some lines:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Vesalainen
Byron - Thompson? - Kovalchuk?


KK and Vesa would look really good together... also Niku would look awesome beside Chiarot.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Well let me just make some lines:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Vesalainen
Byron - Thompson? - Kovalchuk?


Rebuild trade so Tatar and kovalchuk on block and possibly Webber and price, and saving of the 7 plus million contract on domi would also be a factor.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.
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Rebuild trade so Tatar and kovalchuk on block and possibly Webber and price, and saving of the 7 plus million contract on domi would also be a factor.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 8:01 p.m.
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Vesa like Armia who plays a similar style using his 6'4 frame to battle for pucks and drive the net will need time to develop just like Armia did .
Vesa's still just 20 so leaving him in the AHL might be best as he and Poehling can hopefully grow into their frames and embrace their Power Forward style fully at the NHL level .

by this time next year Vesa should be good enough to make the team if we sell off out top 9 pending UFA's
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Jan. 10, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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I mean, born here, would probably live to play with ehlers and wheeler. Gets a chance to win instantly and into the future. Also probably gets paid more than what he would by MTL. I think it’s a solid trade for both sides. Jets have to give up a lot but to get a 2c with an extension in place would be amazing.


Not sure on the born here being a factor, and talent on jets would definitely be a positive factor, just growing up in Toronto, not sure if the dream as a kid had a jets jersey on or if it was just a nhl jersey and loyalty and dough enough to get him signed up longterm in wpg.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.
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Not sure on the born here being a factor, and talent on jets would definitely be a positive factor, just growing up in Toronto, not sure if the dream as a kid had a jets jersey on or if it was just a nhl jersey and loyalty and dough enough to get him signed up longterm in wpg.


Would be hard to say. His dad had some real good years in WPG and Toronto. I feel like if he knew he had a 7 year 50+ million contract waiting for him to go play on a skilled team and be a 2c for the future. It would be hard for him to not say yes to the extension.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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Vesa like Armia who plays a similar style using his 6'4 frame to battle for pucks and drive the net will need time to develop just like Armia did .
Vesa's still just 20 so leaving him in the AHL might be best as he and Poehling can hopefully grow into their frames and embrace their Power Forward style fully at the NHL level .

by this time next year Vesa should be good enough to make the team if we sell off out top 9 pending UFA's


Vesa and Poehling together would look really good. They’d make a really good 3rd line next year. I honestly think that Vesa would be ready by next year. People forget he’s only 20 and that this is his full first year in NA.
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Jan. 10, 2020 at 9:08 p.m.
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Obv i need to watch more mtl, heres my question if you will.
Forget poistion kyle conner or domi who would you take? I really dont know anything about domi that said i just cant wrap my head around chevy giving him that unless hes at or
Just below conner adding center traits
Jan. 10, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Birtle34
Rebuild trade so Tatar and kovalchuk on block and possibly Weber and price, and saving of the 7 plus million contract on domi would also be a factor.


Move Price somewhere that needs G to save cap space, and move Weber to NSH so that recapture fees may be less
Jan. 10, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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Obv i need to watch more mtl, heres my question if you will.
Forget poistion kyle conner or domi who would you take? I really dont know anything about domi that said i just cant wrap my head around chevy giving him that unless hes at or
Just below conner adding center traits


Well last season Domi got 72 pts, and this season he's on pace for 60 pts
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Jan. 10, 2020 at 9:30 p.m.
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Obv i need to watch more mtl, heres my question if you will.
Forget poistion kyle conner or domi who would you take? I really dont know anything about domi that said i just cant wrap my head around chevy giving him that unless hes at or
Just below conner adding center traits


Domi is a C, premium is paid there. He can easily put up 70 pts on this line so yeah I’d justify giving him that contract. Especially since he’s locked down long term and jets solve 2c issue for good.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 9:43 p.m.
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I wish he had more of a shot with elite wings on a good team. Granted it might raise value. Personally the little ive seen from him i wouldnt say hes 2m better then little with the pims and what i have to assume would be early decline from dieabetus. Sorry but for these reasons im out.
Jan. 10, 2020 at 10:00 p.m.
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I wish he had more of a shot with elite wings on a good team. Granted it might raise value. Personally the little ive seen from him i wouldnt say hes 2m better then little with the pims and what i have to assume would be early decline from dieabetus. Sorry but for these reasons im out.


Domi brings a whole other side to his game. He’s physical, fast and creative. He’s way better than little. Little is hardly a 2nd liner anymore. So I would definitely make this move. Max has grit, he works hard.
Jan. 11, 2020 at 2:42 a.m.
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Well let me just make some lines:

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Vesalainen
Byron - Thompson? - Kovalchuk?


Perfect. Domi isn't needed, especially for this package.
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Jan. 11, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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Perfect. Domi isn't needed, especially for this package.


But who knows if Uncle Nate and Kovy resign, which is why I put ? marks
Jan. 11, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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But who knows if Uncle Nate and Kovy resign, which is why I put ? marks


Spacek can fill one of those roles. Jets could also add a guy like Lipon that could play there too. It’s not too hard to get a guy in FA to play that role.
Jan. 11, 2020 at 6:44 p.m.
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Vesa and Poehling together would look really good. They’d make a really good 3rd line next year. I honestly think that Vesa would be ready by next year. People forget he’s only 20 and that this is his full first year in NA.


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Vesa and Poehling together would look really good. They’d make a really good 3rd line next year. I honestly think that Vesa would be ready by next year. People forget he’s only 20 and that this is his full first year in NA.


yeah that's the downside about European players , Fans here dont grasp the jump from big ice's strategy based game to small ice's speed based game .
they right off young players to early IMO as many habs fans started doing with Kotkanemi even though he's still just 19 .
i think international competition choosing to use small ice rinks and will do a lot to help fans see potential easier . (i hope anyways as i assume that means European Countrys will train more on small ice as a result if they want Gold )

Vesa's our type of player and honestly we could use him on a line with KK and Poehling as it would give us everything we need to build on going forward . (after all MTL is lacking LW depth as its Domi ,Drouin, Lehkonen then about a 3 year wait until our next LW of note )
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Jan. 11, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.
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yeah that's the downside about European players , Fans here dont grasp the jump from big ice's strategy based game to small ice's speed based game .
they right off young players to early IMO as many habs fans started doing with Kotkanemi even though he's still just 19 .
i think international competition choosing to use small ice rinks and will do a lot to help fans see potential easier . (i hope anyways as i assume that means European Countrys will train more on small ice as a result if they want Gold )

Vesa's our type of player and honestly we could use him on a line with KK and Poehling as it would give us everything we need to build on going forward . (after all MTL is lacking LW depth as its Domi ,Drouin, Lehkonen then about a 3 year wait until our next LW of note )


Exactly, so glad most European leagues are changing ice size. I think the packaged I proposed was solid for Domi. Works great for both sides.
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Jan. 11, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
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Spacek can fill one of those roles. Jets could also add a guy like Lipon that could play there too. It’s not too hard to get a guy in FA to play that role.


we like Thompson and can use him as a leader if we're selling all our UFA's . He costs nothing and is a great role model for Suzuki as per Suzuki himself .

Kovalchuk survives and replaces Byron who's re-injured himself again .
Byron's spent to much time injured so its time to stop relying on him and sell .

Sell Tatar , Domi , Petry and Chiarot for a profit after raising all their value since acquiring them .

Drouin-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen -Suzuki-Armia
Vesalainen-Kotkanemi-Kovalchuk
Cousins-Thompson -Poehling

Mete-Weber
Scandella-Juulsen
Romanov-Fleury
Kulak

Price Primeau



Kovy and Poehling will swap spots based on who's got the scoring touch that week they'll get more ice time .
Kovy gets most of his ice time though on Power Play

year after that we'll let Cousins , Thompson and Kovalchuk go in favor of youth and let Danault , Drouin and Gallagher lead by themselves as the Veteran Leaders or old guys .

We can live without Kovy but without Thompson we're boned.
Before we got Thompson last year Danault took 1/2 of all MTL Canadiens faceoffs and it was wearing him down hard .
Until KK , Suzuki or Poehling can take 1000+ faceoffs at 50%+ there's no way we can move Thompson without hurting the team
Jan. 11, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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Exactly, so glad most European leagues are changing ice size. I think the packaged I proposed was solid for Domi. Works great for both sides.


i like it

you can keep Spacek though , not because i got anything against him at all
just because our owner's a moron and we're on our 3rd year with no ECHL team with no plans to get one anytime soon .
We got to many players who basically are just getting icetime in practice at the AHL level because we got to many bodies .
i wouldnt want to kill Spacek career like that .

with or without Spacek the value's still there
if you're not doing anything with Appleton he'd make a nice replacement for Cousins . (love Cousins but Appleton earned my respect the last 2 games vs the habs .
Jan. 11, 2020 at 8:51 p.m.
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Oh man. This hurts me, but I would do this deal. I think it makes sense for both teams. Also, what do you think Niku’s next contract would be?
Jan. 11, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
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Oh man. This hurts me, but I would do this deal. I think it makes sense for both teams. Also, what do you think Niku’s next contract would be?


He really hasn’t had any crazy numbers. He’s probably looking at a bridge deal. I’d say 2 x1.5m

He’s had an injury from the start of the year, so he’s off to a slow start. His potential is way higher than what he’s achieved. He was stuck behind a deep blue line the past two years and this year had an injury. So idk he’s probably best to take that bridge deal I proposed.
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