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Upgrading

Created by: MGK
Initial Creation Date: Jan 20, 2020
Published: Jan 20 at 12:10 pm
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Domi, Max4$5,750,000
Cousins, Nick2$1,750,000
MacDermid, Kurtis2$1,150,000
Juulsen, Noah2$850,000
Mete, Victor2$2,850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hall, Taylor7$10,000,000
Thompson, Nate1$1,000,000
Trades
MTL
  1. MacDermid, Kurtis [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Byron, Paul
  3. 2020 5th round pick (FLA)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
LAK
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$81,681,308$0$3,795,000$1,318,692
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Hall, Taylor
$10,000,000
LW, C
UFA
MTL
Domi, Max
$5,750,000
C, LW
RFA
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,750,000
C, LW, RW
RFA
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$925,000
LD
RFA
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
$880,833
G
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$2,850,000
LD
RFA
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 1
MacDermid, Kurtis
$1,150,000
RD
RFA
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Jan 20 at 12:11
#1
AGM for VGK
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ok boomer
Jan 20 at 12:26
#2
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Rebuilding teams shouldn't be trading their picks down and taking on older players just to get Lehkonen.
Jan 20 at 12:30
#3
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Quoting: tryger
Rebuilding teams shouldn't be trading their picks down and taking on older players just to get Lehkonen.


It's just a 2021 3rd. Lehkonen would be better for their rebuild than that pick.
Jan 20 at 12:38
#4
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Quoting: MGK
It's just a 2021 3rd. Lehkonen would be better for their rebuild than that pick.


A third, 4 years of Byron until he is 34, and MacDermid. Take a look at our offensive prospects, we don't need to take 4 years of another old player for Lehkonen. Pass from the Kings.
Jan 20 at 12:44
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Quoting: tryger
A third, 4 years of Byron until he is 34, and MacDermid. Take a look at our offensive prospects, we don't need to take 4 years of another old player for Lehkonen. Pass from the Kings.


24 isn't old. Byron is just a cap dump LA can easily absorb.
Jan 20 at 12:45
#6
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Quoting: MGK
24 isn't old.


I'm talking about Byron.
Jan 20 at 12:48
#7
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Quoting: MGK
24 isn't old. Byron is just a cap dump LA can easily absorb.


We have over 10 million in dead cap on players who aren't even on our team next year, no need to add more to that.
Jan 20 at 12:49
#8
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Quoting: tryger
We have over 10 million in dead cap on players who aren't even on our team next year, no need to add more to that.


Alright fair enough.
Jan 20 at 12:49
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Quoting: tryger
A third, 4 years of Byron until he is 34, and MacDermid. Take a look at our offensive prospects, we don't need to take 4 years of another old player for Lehkonen. Pass from the Kings.


Even if the trade is pretty bad. The facts that paul byron is 30 here have absolutely no incidence on is play since he still is one of the fastest players in Nhl. Fast players don’t age the same then big checking players. Byron can still score 15-20 goal and is a true hame changer for a penalty kill unit. He was having a bad start this year but was olaying a lot better in the last 7-8 game before getting that leg injury. I have no doubt about is ability to come back and have a impact. Having a guy like him on the third line or fourth line of your hockey team is something all coaches want. He is very responsible on the ice and with is speed he strech the ice and open up space for team who like to generate offense eith the fast transition defence offense.
Jan 20 at 1:05
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Quoting: Sebybbqpower
Even if the trade is pretty bad. The facts that paul byron is 30 here have absolutely no incidence on is play since he still is one of the fastest players in Nhl. Fast players don’t age the same then big checking players. Byron can still score 15-20 goal and is a true hame changer for a penalty kill unit. He was having a bad start this year but was olaying a lot better in the last 7-8 game before getting that leg injury. I have no doubt about is ability to come back and have a impact. Having a guy like him on the third line or fourth line of your hockey team is something all coaches want. He is very responsible on the ice and with is speed he strech the ice and open up space for team who like to generate offense eith the fast transition defence offense.


I think that sounds good for a team that is ready to win now, in terms of rebuilding we are certainly behind Montreal. The goal for the Kings this season is to get younger by providing opportunities to their young players, acquire picks, prospects, and start to clear cap space to offset our bad contracts. With this deal the Kings get older, downgrade a pick, add more cap space, and lose defense (an area where they are weak). This is just a bad match.
Jan 20 at 1:10
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Quoting: tryger
I think that sounds good for a team that is ready to win now, in terms of rebuilding we are certainly behind Montreal. The goal for the Kings this season is to get younger by providing opportunities to their young players, acquire picks, prospects, and start to clear cap space to offset our bad contracts. With this deal the Kings get older, downgrade a pick, add more cap space, and lose defense (an area where they are weak). This is just a bad match.


Like is said at the beginning i think that this trade is pretty bad. To team who are rebuilding, that doesn’t make sense for both team.
Jan 20 at 1:14
#12
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Edited Jan 20 at 1:35
Ouch, If i'm the Habs I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
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Jan 20 at 1:34
#13
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Quoting: tryger
Rebuilding teams shouldn't be trading their picks down and taking on older players just to get Lehkonen.


LMAO what drugs do you take ? Lehkonen is worth at least twice this package.
Jan 20 at 3:28
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Montreal isn’t giving up Byron AND Lehkonen, for a player that they don’t even need. Montreal wouldn’t even do Byron or Lehkonen for MacDermid 1 for 1.
Jan 20 at 3:46
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Value isn't even close for Montreal.

I wouldn't trade Lehkonen for those pieces.
Jan 20 at 4:05
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Quoting: GMs
LMAO what drugs do you take ? Lehkonen is worth at least twice this package.


I've given several reasons above why it's not a good fit for us right now, it's nothing against the player. I don't know what else you would like me to say, We don't want him for what we need to take on in that package as a rebuilding team.
Jan 20 at 4:25
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Quoting: tryger
I've given several reasons above why it's not a good fit for us right now, it's nothing against the player. I don't know what else you would like me to say, We don't want him for what we need to take on in that package as a rebuilding team.


Byron have value and he is a veteran, you could flip him for a pick if you wanted. It's just ridiculous you saying LA decline. It's like LA giving Dustin Brown with Kupari for a 3rd and MTL saying no we dont want Brown. No we will take this and flip Brown if needed ...
Jan 20 at 4:39
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Quoting: GMs
Byron have value and he is a veteran, you could flip him for a pick if you wanted. It's just ridiculous you saying LA decline. It's like LA giving Dustin Brown with Kupari for a 3rd and MTL saying no we dont want Brown. No we will take this and flip Brown if needed ...


That is not the same, it's closer to us moving Kempe (similar numbers/age/contract) and Brown (modified-NTC/ nothing retained) for a 3rd, but I doubt you would take that deal. I do think you can get plenty from Lehkonen and Byron, it's just not going to be from a rebuilding team if they both have to be packaged together.
 
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