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Cheveldayoffs days are limited

Created by: bnormie46
Initial Creation Date: Jan 21, 2020
Published: Jan 21 at 9:52 pm
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
I cant see the jets keeping him for the season. A lot of people like to blame Maurice but overall hes be a good coach for the jets and the reason why the jets are struggling is because half their team is made up of AHL players and healthy scratches. You cant win games with that kind of roster. Helle is being over played and that is because Brossoit is too inconstant. Cheveldayoff hasn't been good at trading players and signing UFA's and I can understand it be difficult to get UFA's to come to Winnipeg because its Winnipeg but its the responsibility of the GM to get better players when they are struggling. Especially when your goalie and top 6 are at the best of their game. With this current roster the Jets will not make the playoffs, no matter who the coach is.

Needs:
- 2 top 4 NHL caliber defenceman
- Enforcer (need more physical players who will fight)
- More consistent backup goal-tending
- Shut down bottom 6 winger (penalty kills)
- New Gm

The jets should also stay away from trading their first round pick at the moment because the new new forward prospects unless they can get something good. Also predicting Buff retires
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
fighter, Enforcer2$1,300,000
Shut, Down3$1,500,000
Defensive, Enforcer2$950,000
D man, Top5$7,200,000
Shut, Down d man2$2,100,000
Top 4, D man3$4,900,000
Back up, goalie2$1,700,000
Trades
WPG
    BOS
    1. Roslovic, Jack
    2. Appleton, Mason
    3. Beaulieu, Nathan
    4. Poolman, Tucker
    5. Sbisa, Luca
    6. Dahlström, Carl
    7. Chibisov, Andrei
    8. Berdin, Mikhail
    9. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
    10. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
    Additional Details:
    Trade bait
    WPG
      BOS
      1. Vesalainen, Kristian
      Additional Details:
      trade bait as well
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2020
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      2021
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      2022
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      WPG
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
      20$81,500,000$81,622,855$0$60,000-$122,855

      Roster

      Left WingCenterRight Wing
      WPG
      Connor, Kyle
      $7,142,857
      LW
      UFA - 7
      WPG
      Scheifele, Mark
      $6,125,000
      C
      UFA - 5
      WPG
      Laine, Patrik
      $6,750,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      WPG
      Copp, Andrew
      $2,280,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 2
      WPG
      Wheeler, Blake
      $8,250,000
      RW, C
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      WPG
      Ehlers, Nikolaj
      $6,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 6
      WPG
      Perreault, Mathieu
      $4,125,000
      LW, C
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      WPG
      Little, Bryan
      $5,291,666
      C, RW
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Shut, Down
      $1,500,000
      Defensive, Enforcer
      $950,000
      WPG
      Lowry, Adam
      $2,916,666
      C
      UFA - 2
      fighter, Enforcer
      $1,300,000
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      WPG
      Morrissey, Joshua
      $3,150,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      D man, Top
      $7,200,000
      WPG
      Hellebuyck, Connor
      $6,166,666
      G
      UFA - 5
      Top 4, D man
      $4,900,000
      WPG
      Pionk, Neal
      $3,000,000
      RD
      RFA - 2
      Back up, goalie
      $1,700,000
      WPG
      Niku, Sami
      $775,000
      RD
      RFA - 1
      Shut, Down d man
      $2,100,000
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      WPG
      Byfuglien, Dustin
      $7,600,000
      RD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      WPG
      Kulikov, Dmitry
      $4,333,333
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Bitetto, Anthony
      $700,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Letestu, Mark
      $700,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Harkins, Jansen
      $767,500
      C
      RFA - 1
      WPG
      Bourque, Gabriel
      $700,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      WPG
      Brossoit, Laurent
      $1,225,000
      G
      UFA - 1

      Special Teams

      Power Play 1
      Connor, K.
      Scheifele, M.
      Wheeler, B.
      Laine, P.
      D man, T.
      Power Play 2
      Copp, A.
      Little, B.
      Ehlers, N.
      Morrissey, J.
      Pionk, N.
      Penalty Kill 1
      Lowry, A.
      Shut, D.
      Morrissey, J.
      Shut, D.
      Penalty Kill 2
      Little, B.
      Copp, A.
      Top 4, D.
      Pionk, N.

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      Jan 21 at 10:00
      #1
      Jetsfan
      Joined: Sep 2017
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      I think it's fair to say that if STL lost Pietrangelo, Schenn, Bozak, Dunn, and all their depth D, they would suck as well. This is what the Jets have had happen to them....I doubt Armstrong would get fired
      Jan 21 at 10:22
      #2
      Justin
      Joined: Mar 2019
      Posts: 960
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      I respectfully disagree. Chevy has done pretty well all things considered in my opinion. The only thing that I didn’t like that he did is the Kevin Hayes trade a year ago. This offseason was not really his fault either:
      Jacob Trouba : was as good as gone anyways
      Tyler Myers: 6 years 6 million is way to much for him
      Ben Chiarot: would have love to have signed him but got outbidded by an extra 500k per year
      Buff: completely screwed us over and we can’t make any moves until he officially retires or comes back.
      Tanev: way to long of a deal
      Paul however should be moved on from in my opinion. We have had one maybe two good season with him as coach, simply not good enough. He can’t get the most out of his players, especially the bottom six, it’s been brutal. He constantly plays pylon scrubs who belong in the AHL other than young and promising players ( Bitetto instead of niku, Bourque instead of vesalainen most recently) are a few reasons why he should be gone in my opinion
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      Jan 21 at 10:35
      #3
      Spleenmaster1002
      Joined: Feb 2019
      Posts: 890
      Likes: 380
      Quoting: bunzy1034
      I respectfully disagree. Chevy has done pretty well all things considered in my opinion. The only thing that I didn’t like that he did is the Kevin Hayes trade a year ago. This offseason was not really his fault either:
      Jacob Trouba : was as good as gone anyways
      Tyler Myers: 6 years 6 million is way to much for him
      Ben Chiarot: would have love to have signed him but got outbidded by an extra 500k per year
      Buff: completely screwed us over and we can’t make any moves until he officially retires or comes back.
      Tanev: way to long of a deal
      Paul however should be moved on from in my opinion. We have had one maybe two good season with him as coach, simply not good enough. He can’t get the most out of his players, especially the bottom six, it’s been brutal. He constantly plays pylon scrubs who belong in the AHL other than young and promising players ( Bitetto instead of niku, Bourque instead of vesalainen most recently) are a few reasons why he should be gone in my opinion


      Agree, there’s **** all Chevy could do with Buff’s situation, who IMO is the reason we’re in this position right now. If he had gotten surgery/started rehabbing right when the season ended, then we’d have a healthy Buff in October/November. If he didn’t want to play, he should’ve then retired immediately, and then Chevy could play around with an additional $7.6M. But now, we’ve got $7.6M in unusable cap with Buff giving no indication whether he is coming back or not. Chevy has had to dumpster dive to try to find any semblance of defensive depth.
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      Jan 21 at 10:38
      #4
      Thread Starter
      Joined: Jun 2019
      Posts: 87
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      No coach will improve an AHL caliber team. When we lost all those players or when Buff left, Cheveldayoff should have went out and got players but instead replaced the whole d core with AHL players. You don’t win games with a roster like that in the second half of the year no matter who the coach is.
      Jan 21 at 10:40
      #5
      Spleenmaster1002
      Joined: Feb 2019
      Posts: 890
      Likes: 380
      Quoting: bnormie46
      No coach will improve an AHL caliber team. When we lost all those players or when Buff left, Cheveldayoff should have went out and got players but instead replaced the whole d core with AHL players. You don’t win games with a roster like that in the second half of the year no matter who the coach is.


      The problem is that Buff isn’t fully gone, his $7.6M is still up in the air. If we had re-signed Chiarot and signed someone like Gardiner for example, we’d be absolutely screwed if he decided to come back. That’s why Chevy has had to look for 700k players, we can’t do anything else.
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      Jan 21 at 10:42
      #6
      Thread Starter
      Joined: Jun 2019
      Posts: 87
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      You move out a guy like Perrault or Kulikov and you have room. Or if he came back, you just trade him for a first round pick
      Jan 21 at 10:59
      #7
      wpg
      Joined: Dec 2017
      Posts: 384
      Likes: 128
      Quoting: bnormie46
      You move out a guy like Perrault or Kulikov and you have room. Or if he came back, you just trade him for a first round pick


      both would have to have a sweetener added to move, then u have to give up more to fill that hole and buff isnt worth a 1st round pick.. not by a long shot (questionable shape to play, cap hit and age)

      nah the jets should play the season out, get a decent 1st round pick and sign hanomic as well as hope players like vesalainen, heinola, samberg r ready to take the leap... their defense future is bright just too young
      Jan 21 at 11:49
      #8
      Joined: Apr 2018
      Posts: 688
      Likes: 537
      I think the Jets may treat this year similar to San Jose and Tampa whey they missed the playoffs in the last few years. The team will struggle this year, then do a slight reset this summer. If Buff gone? Replace him in the offseason. Rebuild the bottom 6 this summer with more cap clarity. You know Heinola/Niku will likely be on this team, how does that affect what else you do on the back line?
      Jan 22 at 1:27
      #9
      Joined: Jun 2018
      Posts: 384
      Likes: 87
      You want trouba back?
      Jan 22 at 4:15
      #10
      Joined: May 2016
      Posts: 2,827
      Likes: 197
      Yeah you can. The Jackets have been proving it practically all season. The problem is depth in the organization.
      Jan 22 at 9:18
      #11
      Jetsfan
      Joined: Sep 2017
      Posts: 3,130
      Likes: 643
      Quoting: bunzy1034
      I respectfully disagree. Chevy has done pretty well all things considered in my opinion. The only thing that I didn’t like that he did is the Kevin Hayes trade a year ago. This offseason was not really his fault either:
      Jacob Trouba : was as good as gone anyways
      Tyler Myers: 6 years 6 million is way to much for him
      Ben Chiarot: would have love to have signed him but got outbidded by an extra 500k per year
      Buff: completely screwed us over and we can’t make any moves until he officially retires or comes back.
      Tanev: way to long of a deal
      Paul however should be moved on from in my opinion. We have had one maybe two good season with him as coach, simply not good enough. He can’t get the most out of his players, especially the bottom six, it’s been brutal. He constantly plays pylon scrubs who belong in the AHL other than young and promising players ( Bitetto instead of niku, Bourque instead of vesalainen most recently) are a few reasons why he should be gone in my opinion


      Quoting: Spleenmaster1002
      Agree, there’s **** all Chevy could do with Buff’s situation, who IMO is the reason we’re in this position right now. If he had gotten surgery/started rehabbing right when the season ended, then we’d have a healthy Buff in October/November. If he didn’t want to play, he should’ve then retired immediately, and then Chevy could play around with an additional $7.6M. But now, we’ve got $7.6M in unusable cap with Buff giving no indication whether he is coming back or not. Chevy has had to dumpster dive to try to find any semblance of defensive depth.


      Quoting: bnormie46
      No coach will improve an AHL caliber team. When we lost all those players or when Buff left, Cheveldayoff should have went out and got players but instead replaced the whole d core with AHL players. You don’t win games with a roster like that in the second half of the year no matter who the coach is.


      Yes, Byfuglien screwed Chevy on the cap but if you leave him on LTIR, with no other injuries, this team is actually ok.
      The reason why I say this is that we would be in a playoff spot if we had Lowry, Little and Poolman all year. Come TDL, we would know if Buff was coming back and we could trade for a top 4 RD if he wasnt.
      Jan 22 at 11:12
      #12
      Joined: Jun 2019
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      There is a reason p mo is the most losing coach in the nhl.. awful coach not too sure how this is Chevy fault rn either
       
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