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Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 25, 2020
Published: Jan. 27, 2020
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3$2,500,000
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    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    I’ll understand if that rental is actually good at hockey. All Skjei does is make it harder to sign Pietrangelo and blocks the far superior Dunn from playing meaningful minutes


    i wouldn't trade for him as well. he can still bring back a 1st, plus.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Why on Earth would the Blues make that trade? Good grief.






    You're dreaming, dude.


    a columbus fan literally said the same thing to me last season. they ended up trading everything to make a run. st lious is in the perfect situation to trade for a good rental. i'm going it, i'll be back next month to stuff it down your throats.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:11 p.m.
    #28
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    i wouldn't trade for him as well. he can still bring back a 1st, plus.


    You’re probably right, defenseman who’ve shown even the slightest bit of competence on the NHL have never ending value
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Based off what?

    Let’s put this in perspective.

    Stone avg 66pts per 82g. 2nd/Branstrom

    Granlund 56pts per 82g. Fiala

    E.Kane 48pts per 82g. 1st/Danny O’regan

    Coyle 42 pts per 82. Donato/5th

    Kreider 48pts per 82. So why is it people seem to think he’s going to get a bigger return than all of them?

    2nd and Lauko or 1st/Shen or Heinen/3rd that becomes a 2nd if Kreider extends. And that’s only because it’s a sellers market.


    not one person said he will get more than stone.

    kreider to going to get a good return because he brings what teams want. he'll get at least what hayes brought back last season. a 1st, young nhl player or legit prospect and an conditional pick. its steep, i wouldn't want to pay it, but someone will.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    You’re probably right, defenseman who’ve shown even the slightest bit of competence on the NHL have never ending value


    To be fair, I wouldn't put all of the blame on Skjei, he was really good his first season, but after that the Rangers brought Lindy Ruff to the team and ever since then the Defense has been trash.
    Just look at the D who have left the Rangers, both Pionk and Shattenkirk are doing amazing since they left the Rangers. I think Skjei could return to form on a team with a competent Defensive scheme
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    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    not one person said he will get more than stone.

    kreider to going to get a good return because he brings what teams want. he'll get at least what hayes brought back last season. a 1st, young nhl player or legit prospect and an conditional pick. its steep, i wouldn't want to pay it, but someone will.



    The kind of return your are asking for is bringing back more than Stone. ??‍♂️
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    The kind of return your are asking for is bringing back more than Stone. ??‍♂️


    Would you do this
    To Boston
    Chris Kreider
    Lias Andersson
    Jesper Fast

    To Rangers
    Danton Heinen
    2020 1st round pick
    2021 3rd that turns to a 2nd if they resign Kreider
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:25 p.m.
    #33
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    The kind of return your are asking for is bringing back more than Stone. ??‍♂️


    stone brought back a 2nd, a nhl player and a high end prospect. it's not the same. i'll remember you when next month comes.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:26 p.m.
    #34
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    Quoting: TheDime99
    Would you do this
    To Boston
    Chris Kreider
    Lias Andersson
    Jesper Fast

    To Rangers
    Danton Heinen
    2020 1st round pick
    2021 3rd that turns to a 2nd if they resign Kreider



    No. Fast and Anderson are of no interest.


    And that is a huge overpay considering Lias situation. He has little value right now.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:36 p.m.
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    Edited Jan. 27, 2020 at 11:47 p.m.
    Quoting: gregory_papas
    stone brought back a 2nd, a nhl player and a high end prospect. it's not the same. i'll remember you when next month comes.


    Lindberg was a roster filler and close to being a wash with the Lindbergh that went the other way. Insignificant. The return was 2nd and Bramstrom.

    The difference between a late 1st and a late 2nd is significant. The difference between Bramstrom and the kind of prospect you expect to be added to the first is not.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    in the last 2 years several teams have. if not you someone else will.


    Someone else will ok, but I’m not interested. Trading away Bokk left a hole, so We need to refuel that area so again no we aren’t interested in trading a first.
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    Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Lindberg was a roster filler and close to being a wash with e Lindbergh that went the other way. Insignificant. The return was 2nd and Bramstrom.

    The difference between a late 1st and a late 2nd is significant. The difference between Bramstrom and the kind of prospect you expect to be added to the first is not.


    your wrong, i don't have the energy to explain it to you right now. it's getting late. i'll come looking for you when kreider gets traded.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Someone else will ok, but I’m not interested. Trading away Bokk left a hole, so We need to refuel that area so again no we aren’t interested in trading a first.


    you are not interested. Doug Armstrong might be.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    a columbus fan literally said the same thing to me last season. they ended up trading everything to make a run. st lious is in the perfect situation to trade for a good rental. i'm going it, i'll be back next month to stuff it down your throats.



    Muh huh. Get used to disappointment. You're not dealing with Columbus fans now. Army doesn't splurge on rentals, dude.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    stone brought back a 2nd, a nhl player and a high end prospect. it's not the same. i'll remember you when next month comes.



    Kreider ain't Stone, man. Get a grip.
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    Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    your wrong, i don't have the energy to explain it to you right now. it's getting late. i'll come looking for you when kreider gets traded.



    Nope. Let’s look.

    Stone > Kreider yes?

    2nd/Bram/Lindberg

    Bramstrom. 15th overall pick undersized puck moving d man with work to do in his own end.

    Urho V. 18th overall pick. Bigger. Less O upside. Better on D.

    So by that. Urho/3rd/Nordstrom is the equal of the Stone return minus the difference between the 2.

    But in your eyes Urho/1st/another piece is required.

    Lol.

    You are shopping for gated community ocean front property on a suburbs budget bud.

    1st and mid to low prospect is the going rate for a very good but not elite rental wing. Either you don’t know what Kreider value is or the value of picks and prospects. ??‍♂️ You want a high end prospect you lose the 1st.

    You could very well get more than that. All it takes is one GM to go nuts. And there can be a significant difference between FMV and actual return, it happens. Stone was worth more, they were offered more, did not want to trade him in division. Tatar went for 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Was not worth that at all. Things happen. Supply and demand, very low supply this year. GM makes up his mind he has to have someone at any cost. Peter Chiarelli. But as of now that is the going rate. Like it or not.
    Jan. 27, 2020 at 11:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    you are not interested. Doug Armstrong might be.


    I know Doug’s not stupid enough. Because when everyone’s status quo was oh Blues are rebuilding look what Armstrong did, NO TRADES at All. And when we started winning and we got to TDL NO MAJOR TRADES only minor trades for players to fill while others were injured. If you aren’t a Blues fan you wouldn’t understand Armstrong because your so ordinary status quo.
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    Jan. 27, 2020 at 11:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    you are not interested. Doug Armstrong might be.


    And the best part about it you aren’t looking from a Blues perspective you are only looking at what benefits the New York Rangers as a Rangers fan. Don’t tell me about my team I know just like I don’t tell you what your team wants to do I only tell you what my opinions are based on Value. But your status quo is based on what your team can gain not what every team can gain.
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    Jan. 28, 2020 at 3:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I know Doug’s not stupid enough. Because when everyone’s status quo was oh Blues are rebuilding look what Armstrong did, NO TRADES at All. And when we started winning and we got to TDL NO MAJOR TRADES only minor trades for players to fill while others were injured. If you aren’t a Blues fan you wouldn’t understand Armstrong because your so ordinary status quo.


    he literally traded away 4 first round picks in the past 3 seasons. he made 24 trades in the last 3 years.
    Jan. 28, 2020 at 4:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Kreider ain't Stone, man. Get a grip.


    if what i wrote made you think i was comparing kreider to stone than you have a problem with comprehension. reading is fundamental young man.
    Jan. 28, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Nope. Let’s look.

    Stone > Kreider yes?

    2nd/Bram/Lindberg

    Bramstrom. 15th overall pick undersized puck moving d man with work to do in his own end.

    Urho V. 18th overall pick. Bigger. Less O upside. Better on D.

    So by that. Urho/3rd/Nordstrom is the equal of the Stone return minus the difference between the 2.

    But in your eyes Urho/1st/another piece is required.

    Lol.

    You are shopping for gated community ocean front property on a suburbs budget bud.

    1st and mid to low prospect is the going rate for a very good but not elite rental wing. Either you don’t know what Kreider value is or the value of picks and prospects. ??‍♂️ You want a high end prospect you lose the 1st.

    You could very well get more than that. All it takes is one GM to go nuts. And there can be a significant difference between FMV and actual return, it happens. Stone was worth more, they were offered more, did not want to trade him in division. Tatar went for 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Was not worth that at all. Things happen. Supply and demand, very low supply this year. GM makes up his mind he has to have someone at any cost. Peter Chiarelli. But as of now that is the going rate. Like it or not.


    Bramstrom value grew from the draft. you're exaggerating what i said. look at the kevin hayes trade, the rangers will get that. maybe a better conditional pick.

    i'm saving this page for next months. you all will be hearing from me.
    Jan. 28, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    Bramstrom value grew from the draft. you're exaggerating what i said. look at the kevin hayes trade, the rangers will get that. maybe a better conditional pick.

    i'm saving this page for next months. you all will be hearing from me.


    Well if it does not play out your way you won’t hear from me. I’m not a told you so kind of person. Not childish and petty.

    And as I stated above Fair Market Trade Value and what actually transpires is not always one and the same. Anything can transpire.
    Jan. 28, 2020 at 7:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: gregory_papas
    he literally traded away 4 first round picks in the past 3 seasons. he made 24 trades in the last 3 years.


    Yeah last 4 years at the beginning of the years it been over 6 since he has made a huge TDL deal.
    Jan. 28, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Well if it does not play out your way you won’t hear from me. I’m not a told you so kind of person. Not childish and petty.

    And as I stated above Fair Market Trade Value and what actually transpires is not always one and the same. Anything can transpire.


    on here i'm going to be very petty. lmao. i'm seriously just joking, i have a smile on my face every time i reply. i'm not saying it with malice.
    Jan. 28, 2020 at 7:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Yeah last 4 years at the beginning of the years it been over 6 since he has made a huge TDL deal.


    you said armstrong is too smart to trade away a 1st. i look him up, ends up he traded 4 in the last 3 years. i share this info with you and your response is; 'yea, but... but...but.'

    FYI i'm not ordinary status quo, read some of my posts. you're taking out some kind of insecurity you have on me.
     
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