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Boston

Created by: Stan_Bowman
Initial Creation Date: Jan 31, 2020
Published: Jan 31 at 3:01 pm
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Trades
CHI
  1. Backes, David
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Smith, Zack ($250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
How could Boston say no to this? Saves them 3mil in cap, gives them a useful PK, 4th line player (albeit on a bad contract, BUT with the same term as Backes) We saw that 6million in deadcap was worth a first when Carolina ate that Cap from Toronto. Boston saves 3million this year and next year, OR can save 3mil this year and buyhim out in the offseason and save 5million next year (Relative to Backes contract at 6) Even if Backes is stashed in the minors the cap relief is significant.

The first could easily be substituted for one of their top prospects.
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Zack Smith: $250,000 (7.69%)
  • Robin Lehner: $2,500,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CHI
BOS
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
MTL
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$67,696,794$0$7,665,000$13,803,206
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Saad, Brandon
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$778,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Caggiula, Drake
$1,500,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
$863,333
RW, LW
RFA - 2
CHI
Kämpf, David
$1,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
BOS
Backes, David
$4,500,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
CHI
Lehner, Robin
$1,400,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Gustafsson, Erik
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
CHI
Murphy, Connor
$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 3
CHI
Crawford, Corey
$6,000,000
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Määttä, Olli
$4,083,333
LD
UFA - 3
CHI
Koekkoek, Slater
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CHI
Gilbert, Dennis
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
CHI
Highmore, Matthew
$775,833
C
RFA - 1
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$4,550,000
LD
UFA - 3
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3

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Jan 31 at 3:05
#1
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Ummm. Nooo.
Jan 31 at 3:07
#2
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Why would Chicago say yes
Please explain
Jan 31 at 3:12
#3
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Nylander is a GOD
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Quoting: Koekkoek_Clock
Why would Chicago say yes
Please explain


First round pick is good?
Jan 31 at 3:13
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Quoting: Koekkoek_Clock
Why would Chicago say yes
Please explain


its bc its heavily favoured to basically buying a 1st round pick. His buyout is 4m and 1m cap hits for the next 2 seasons. Smith is actually worse than Backes, so with Smiths cap hit next year vs Smiths cap hit, all they are doing is adding 750k-1m (including this retention) in cap space to get a 1st round pick.

Bruins tell them to pound sand with this deal.
Jan 31 at 3:13
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Ummm. Nooo.


This is an easy win for you guys though.
Jan 31 at 3:13
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Quoting: coga16
its bc its heavily favoured to basically buying a 1st round pick. His buyout is 4m and 1m cap hits for the next 2 seasons. Smith is actually worse than Backes, so with Smiths cap hit next year vs Smiths cap hit, all they are doing is adding 750k-1m (with the retention) in cap space to get a 1st round pick.

Bruins tell them to bound sand with this deal


What makes you think Smith is worse than Backes?
Jan 31 at 3:17
#7
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
First round pick is good?


This would never happen. I’m not sure you’re aware of how many UFAs we need to sign this year.
This is why you have one of the worse gm reps in the league
Jan 31 at 3:20
#8
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Nylander is a GOD
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Quoting: Koekkoek_Clock
This would never happen. I’m not sure you’re aware of how many UFAs we need to sign this year.
This is why you have one of the worse gm reps in the league


Odds are one of DeHann, Shaw, Seabrook retires (looking at you Shaw) and for the record, Stan Bowman isn't looked down upon by his peers. At least theirs no evidence to support this claim.
Jan 31 at 3:21
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
What makes you think Smith is worse than Backes?


not saying backes is some sort of prize pig either, but Smith has been for a few seasons now, he has some very ugly underlying numbers
Jan 31 at 3:25
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Go Hawks
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Backes can never, and will never, be on the same team as Seabrook.
Jan 31 at 3:29
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Quoting: Petrock83
Backes can never, and will never, be on the same team as Seabrook.


That would be a good wakeup call for both of them (+ Keith)
Jan 31 at 3:31
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
This is an easy win for you guys though.


Rather keep the 1st. Unlike Leafs we don’t have to move him. Would help, but not necessary.
Jan 31 at 3:32
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Nylander is a GOD
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Rather keep the 1st. Unlike Leafs we don’t have to move him. Would help, but not necessary.


This post is mainly inspired by an article that I read which suggested that the Bruins were looking to trade him (Hence why he is not reporting to AHL)
Jan 31 at 3:32
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Odds are one of DeHann, Shaw, Seabrook retires (looking at you Shaw) and for the record, Stan Bowman isn't looked down upon by his peers. At least theirs no evidence to support this claim.


There are lots of evidence to support my claim
Example panarin
Shaw won’t retire yet
Jan 31 at 3:47
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
This post is mainly inspired by an article that I read which suggested that the Bruins were looking to trade him (Hence why he is not reporting to AHL)



They are. It they are looking at including him in a deal with something significant coming back and overpaying to compensate for Backes being involved. They won’t mind giving up the 1st then. Just giving it up to dump him. Not going to happen. They will just buy him out next year if it comes to that.
Jan 31 at 3:47
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Jesus christ, light this bull****e on fire and walk away...
Koekkoek_Clock liked this.
Jan 31 at 3:50
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I know Boston is getting real value back, but the thing that made the Marleau trade work was that all $6.25 million was gone off Toronto’s books. Here, the Bruins only get $3 million in savings and they aren’t going to be right up against the cap like the Leafs were anyways. I don’t think it’s worth it to them
Jan 31 at 4:27
#18
DaBus
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As a Hawks fan you have to at least retain half of Smith's deal because Boston is a cap team. If you do not retain half change the 1st to a 2nd or a B or better prospect
Jan 31 at 8:37
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Wow, I gotta say, this is a total rip off for Boston. Again, love to get a pick as a hawks fan, but Jesus, I’m very much a realist.

Wait, did I just see someone say there’s no evidence to make the claim that bowman is looked down on by his peers?! WHAT?!
Feb 1 at 10:30
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Quoting: HatterTParty
Wow, I gotta say, this is a total rip off for Boston. Again, love to get a pick as a hawks fan, but Jesus, I’m very much a realist.

Wait, did I just see someone say there’s no evidence to make the claim that bowman is looked down on by his peers?! WHAT?!


Yeah, Like it or not Bowman is not in the bottom half of NHL GM’s.
Feb 1 at 1:13
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Yeah, Like it or not Bowman is not in the bottom half of NHL GM’s.


That’s not what you said. You said he isn’t looked down on and there isn’t evidence to say he is. There really, REALLY, is.
 
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