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Kase and Toffoli

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Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2020
Published: Feb. 3, 2020
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I think this lineup would be so dangerous
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  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
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  2. Backes, David
  3. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2021 5th round pick (BOS)
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.
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The trades are interesting, but there is a 0.0% chance that Kuraly is a healthy scratch. I don’t think Kase has any experience on the left wing.
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:43 a.m.
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Ducks accept
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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I’d love this. Don’t like the lines.

Debrusk-Krejci-Toffoli L2.

Bjork-Coyle-Kase L3

Kuraly-Kuhlman-Wagner L4

Heinen- - -oops. Trade him for a pick to recoup a pick. Could play him on 4th, don’t really like him there though.
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
The trades are interesting, but there is a 0.0% chance that Kuraly is a healthy scratch. I don’t think Kase has any experience on the left wing.


good point, switch toffoli and Kase or have both of them play RW and have Bjork and DeBrusk play LW

if these trades did happen whoever is playing well would get the 4th line spots so those are interchangeable, i agree kuraly is built for the playoffs
Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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I’d love this. Don’t like the lines.

Debrusk-Krejci-Toffoli L2.

Bjork-Coyle-Kase L3

Kuraly-Kuhlman-Wagner L4

Heinen- - -oops. Trade him for a pick to recoup a pick. Could play him on 4th, don’t really like him there though.


you're probably right it does seem like he would be the odd man out
Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:54 a.m.
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you're probably right it does seem like he would be the odd man out


Ya, next year Blidh takes Nordy’s role and if Toffolli walks (pretty likely), Kase moves RW2 and Kuhlman/Studnicka would be in line for RW3. Coyle could be moved there if Stud was ready for center role.
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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Kase is on pace for 2 more points than Heinen, while playing almost 3 minutes more a night. He also has a H/60 that is a 1/3 of what Heinen's is this season. If Boston fans think Heinen has no offense and isn't physical, they are going to hate Kase
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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you're probably right it does seem like he would be the odd man out


No it doesn’t. Bjork has looked good for a couple weeks. Heinen is the better player.
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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Kase is on pace for 2 more points than Heinen, while playing almost 3 minutes more a night. He also has a H/60 that is a 1/3 of what Heinen's is this season. If Boston fans think Heinen has no offense and isn't physical, they are going to hate Kase


Ya well the majority of bruins fans are really dumb and think we should trade Mcavoy so i don’t really care what they think
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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Ya well the majority of bruins fans are really dumb and think we should trade Mcavoy so i don’t really care what they think


My point is, is Kase really an upgrade outside of being a right shot RW?
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:18 a.m.
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Kase is on pace for 2 more points than Heinen, while playing almost 3 minutes more a night. He also has a H/60 that is a 1/3 of what Heinen's is this season. If Boston fans think Heinen has no offense and isn't physical, they are going to hate Kase


Except Kase averaged 26.5 goals per 82 the previous 2 years before getting hurt. If he gets back to that....i’m fine with it.

He had something like 31 in 93 those 2 years. Heinen has 34 in 213.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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Except Kase averaged 26.5 goals per 82 the previous 2 years before getting hurt. If he gets back to that....i’m fine with it.

He had something like 31 in 93 those 2 years. Heinen has 34 in 213.


So its not an upgrade, its a hope and a prayer that he finds his game in Boston.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:36 a.m.
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So its not an upgrade, its a hope and a prayer that he finds his game in Boston.


When you factor in cap space and the flexibility that brings them in the future, ya it is.

We saw how trying to play at less than 100% affected Pasta last year. Don’t know why Kase slipped the 1st half of the year. I expect him to rebound. If not ??‍♂️. Dumped 6m of dead weight. Still come out on top.

They don’t have to trade Heinen, have him take Nordtrom role this year, bench Kuhlman. Heinen takes Toffoli role next year and blocks Studnicka. I’d rather use him to recoup a 2nd. But whatever.
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
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When you factor in cap space and the flexibility that brings them in the future, ya it is.

We saw how trying to play at less than 100% affected Pasta last year. Don’t know why Kase slipped the 1st half of the year. I expect him to rebound. If not ??‍♂️. Dumped 6m of dead weight. Still come out on top.

They don’t have to trade Heinen, have him take Nordtrom role this year, bench Kuhlman. Heinen takes Toffoli role next year and blocks Studnicka. I’d rather use him to recoup a 2nd. But whatever.


I'm not talking about the deal. I'm talking about people think Kase is an upgrade lol. Kase is a softer version of Heinen and not nearly as good defensively.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.
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I'm not talking about the deal. I'm talking about people think Kase is an upgrade lol. Kase is a softer version of Heinen and not nearly as good defensively.


And a much better goal scorer. Depends on what you are looking for i guess. Advance metrics rank Kase pretty damn high, not so much on Heinen. If you believe in those things. I don’t. But...
Feb. 3, 2020 at 11:55 a.m.
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And a much better goal scorer. Depends on what you are looking for i guess. Advance metrics rank Kase pretty damn high, not so much on Heinen. If you believe in those things. I don’t. But...


G/60 this year:
Kase - 0.39
Heinen - 0.40
Feb. 3, 2020 at 12:10 p.m.
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G/60 this year:
Kase - 0.39
Heinen - 0.40


And as i said above 31 in under 100 games before injury. Heinen 34 in 213.

If you want a 12 goal 35 point FW playing 2nd line because the coach said he’s defensively responsible yet refuses to use him to kill penalties...so be it.

Heinen is a divisive figure to B’s fans. Plenty see him as useless. Others think he’s amazing defensively and above average at every aspect of the game because they fell for coachspeak.

Neither is correct. He’s s good solid 3rd liner, nothing more-nothing less. If he rediscovers his offense that can change. Until then he is what he is.

Eventually Bjork, Heinen, Kuhlman, Seny, Studnicka will be fighting for 2 roster spots maybe 1. That makes a couple of them expendable. Choose wisely.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 12:29 p.m.
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And as i said above 31 in under 100 games before injury. Heinen 34 in 213.

If you want a 12 goal 35 point FW playing 2nd line because the coach said he’s defensively responsible yet refuses to use him to kill penalties...so be it.

Heinen is a divisive figure to B’s fans. Plenty see him as useless. Others think he’s amazing defensively and above average at every aspect of the game because they fell for coachspeak.

Neither is correct. He’s s good solid 3rd liner, nothing more-nothing less. If he rediscovers his offense that can change. Until then he is what he is.

Eventually Bjork, Heinen, Kuhlman, Seny, Studnicka will be fighting for 2 roster spots maybe 1. That makes a couple of them expendable. Choose wisely.


I wouldn't disagree, but the same can be said for Kase. He's not a top 6 guy right now if he's producing like a 3rd liner. What you said about Heinen can be applied to Kase as well. If he rediscovers his offense that can change, until then he is what he is. At least with Heinen you know if he's not giving you offense, he's giving you a responsible defensive game.
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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I wouldn't disagree, but the same can be said for Kase. He's not a top 6 guy right now if he's producing like a 3rd liner. What you said about Heinen can be applied to Kase as well. If he rediscovers his offense that can change, until then he is what he is. At least with Heinen you know if he's not giving you offense, he's giving you a responsible defensive game.


Agreed. The big thing with Kase, they have a chance to aquire a potential 25 goal scorer RW with term at a reasonable cost. Very few other chances of that happening out there.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 12:44 p.m.
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Agreed. The big thing with Kase, they have a chance to aquire a potential 25 goal scorer RW with term at a reasonable cost. Very few other chances of that happening out there.


Kase's G/GP for his career puts him around 18 goals a season....little short of that potential 25 goal title.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.
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Kase's G/GP for his career puts him around 18 goals a season....little short of that potential 25 goal title.


Again 26.5 per 82 the previous 2 years. So it’s there. The year before that he was a rookie in and out of the lineup and getting less minutes.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.
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Again 26.5 per 82 the previous 2 years. So it’s there. The year before that he was a rookie in and out of the lineup and getting less minutes.


So you're cherry picking his best two years and ignore the rest to make your case.
Feb. 3, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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So you're cherry picking his best two years and ignore the rest to make your case.


The rest? Lol there have only been 2 others one was his rookie year and still developing. Players generally do improve. The other is this year, who knows why the slip, still recovering from injury, bad team, bad line mates (playing with Steel and Jones), unhappy, i dunno. Which do you think is more a reflection of him his rookie year just getting his feet wet or the prior 2. Lol, Pasta had 27 points as a rookie. Is that who he is? C’mon you are grasping at straws looking for a reason to argue. I know the idea of trading anyone away or benching anyone upsets you but damn bro. ?
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Feb. 3, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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The rest? Lol there have only been 2 others one was his rookie year and still developing. Players generally do improve. The other is this year, who knows why the slip, still recovering from injury, bad team, bad line mates (playing with Steel and Jones), unhappy, i dunno. Which do you think is more a reflection of him his rookie year just getting his feet wet or the prior 2.


I think his career body of work on a p/gp basis is a good reflection. Why include the two previous years and exclude this just because his numbers are down? Why exclude his rookie year and look at the other years vs just picking his two best years of P/GP?

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Lol, Pasta had 27 points as a rookie. Is that who he is? C’mon you are grasping at straws looking for a reason to argue. I know the idea of trading anyone away or benching anyone upsets you but damn bro. ?


Not grasping at anything. I'm also not sure where the "benching or trading anyone upsets me" comes from. I'm all for making the team better, but Kase isn't a massive upgrade over anything we have with how he's currently playing. I know he's intriguing because of what he could be, but I could say that about a lot of players.
Feb. 4, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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I think his career body of work on a p/gp basis is a good reflection. Why include the two previous years and exclude this just because his numbers are down? Why exclude his rookie year and look at the other years vs just picking his two best years of P/GP?

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Lol, Pasta had 27 points as a rookie. Is that who he is? C’mon you are grasping at straws looking for a reason to argue. I know the idea of trading anyone away or benching anyone upsets you but damn bro. ?


Not grasping at anything. I'm also not sure where the "benching or trading anyone upsets me" comes from. I'm all for making the team better, but Kase isn't a massive upgrade over anything we have with how he's currently playing. I know he's intriguing because of what he could be, but I could say that about a lot of players.



It’s because of all the B’s posters on here you are by far the biggest status quo guy of the bunch. That is not a bad thing at times. I oppose trading just for the sake of trading. But you hold onto every player with a death grip.

At least you know players values and can have an intelligent and civil conversation even in disagreement. I respect that and you. ??
 
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