Blues can keep Pietrangelo

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Created by: Shylo_Moxii

Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 10, 2020

Published: Apr. 10, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

An assertion that Alex Pietrangelo is going to tell the team to screw off by most people isn't always the case. I know Alex Pietrangelo loves being captain, loves the city in general, and the biggest thing is Alex's wife has openly stated that she wants to stay in St.Louis because her family is here. So Alex while I think he gets quite a good chunk it's going to be less than 9 Million, and quite frankly there aren't very many teams who are willing to take him for that much with the risk factor of what happened to EK65 and DD8.

Dunn is a very good player the probability is what i'm assuming 5.5M for 5 Years the same contract Parayko got when he was a Restricted Free Agent. Dunn has turned into a really well performing player who could stick around.

Now how do we exercise the money issue. I think the Cap is going to be pushed back, but for now I'm going to be putting it at 83 Million Cap Space because that was the last known cap space we were going to have.

St.Louis has quite a few RFAs, and only 1 UFA that really needs to be signed. Mitch Reinke is on the way up to the NHL level if Bortuzzo is out the door. For certain teams like Toronto he would work perfectly as a bottom pairing playing defense, We also have the opening of Mikkola who did very well his first few games this year, we sent him back down because he was not quite ready.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dunn, Vince	5	$5,500,000
Walman, Jake	1	$900,000
Reinke, Mitch	1	$1,100,000
MacEachern, Mackenzie	1	$800,000
Blais, Samuel	1	$1,750,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex		5	$8,500,000

Trades

STL

2021 4th round pick (TOR)

Additional Details:

This deal works out for a team like Toronto because they get a good defensive guy on a cheap contract down the depth. He isn't used for Offense at all because he is terrible offense, but Toronto needs defense and defense is what we can give.

TOR

Bortuzzo, Robert

Additional Details:

With players such as Walman, Mikkola, and Reinke coming up the defenseman lineup it's time for a change in the lineup Bortuzzo isn't an ideal player to have on the lineup anymore with already 3 RHD, he would be a scratch most of next year likely, so this is why this seems like a good deal. Now from Toronto's perspective not too sure on how it works with the draft pick, it might be a little higher in the bargain, but I would settle for a 4th-5th round pick, which is not too crazy for a 2021 Draft.

STL

2020 2nd round pick (BUF)

Additional Details:

Buffalo can really use this as in the incoming player that can really put the team in a contention spot until Luukonen comes around, now that being said I do understand it is a risk, but with Hutton not doing so well maybe having him as a back up 1A, 1B that St.Louis had with the 2 and you could be golden by the end of it, and maybe you make it far into a playoff run.

BUF

Allen, Jake ($1,350,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Jake Allen had a good performance this year with a .927 Sv Pct, and a 2.15 GAA. Jake Allen had a very good performance. Something Buffalo could use on the back line until Luukonen comes around. I think a retention is a good deal, and it picks the draft pick from a 3rd to a 2nd in my opinion retaining, and that's the only thing that seems fair.

STL

2021 3rd round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

I think 3rd is very fair for a player of his caliber especially on 1 year remaining, it's very fair in my opinion.

NYI

Bozak, Tyler

Additional Details:

There isn't a any real good choice I could think of that could use Bozak, and in my opinion he's got 1 year left and it's a 10-team no trade clause. So really any deal can be made for Bozak. I think he would fit well in a 3C role, at least and maybe even a 2C role.

Buyouts

Alexander Steen: $3,416,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jake Allen: $1,350,000 (31.03%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,000,000	$72,826,348	$306,349	$637,500	$10,173,652

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Perron, David $4,000,000$4,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000$1,875,000 C UFA - 3	Blais, Samuel $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Schwartz, Jaden $5,350,000$5,350,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 8	Tarasenko, Vladimir $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Kostin, Klim $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW RFA - 2		Thomas, Robert $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) C, RW UFA - 1
Walker, Nathan $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1	Sundqvist, Oskar $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Kyrou, Jordan $758,333$758,333 RW UFA - 1
	Barbashev, Ivan $1,475,000$1,475,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dunn, Vince $5,500,000$5,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,500,000$8,500,000 RD UFA - 7	Binnington, Jordan $4,400,000$4,400,000 G UFA - 1
Mikkola, Niko $787,500$787,500 LD UFA - 2	Parayko, Colton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Husso, Ville $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 2
Gunnarsson, Carl $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 7

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
MacEachern, Mackenzie $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Sanford, Zachary $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Reinke, Mitch $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD UFA - 1

Apr. 10, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.

Torontoleafs15

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Leafs don't need Burtuzzo. Just sign Dunn to a bridge deal and you'll be fine
Isles are gonna need a lot of cap space to sign Barzal and Pudlock

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.

FloppyBiscuit

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Don't think the Sabres are going to try the Blues backup goalie route again, but they could use Bozak since their 2C is kind of a question mark.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit

Don't think the Sabres are going to try the Blues backup goalie route again, but they could use Bozak since their 2C is kind of a question mark.

I feel like the difference is Allen had some pretty good stats this year, I think if Buffalo got some insurance for it, I think Buffalo would take on him as a chance because it is only 1 year.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:06 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

I feel like the difference is Allen had some pretty good stats this year, I think if Buffalo got some insurance for it, I think Buffalo would take on him as a chance because it is only 1 year.

no thank you

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

no thank you

okay then....it's gonna be another few years of a struggle for the Sabres.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

okay then....it's gonna be another few years of a struggle for the Sabres.

I'm sure I will look back in 2 years and say "If only we had Jake Allen"

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Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.

FloppyBiscuit

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

I feel like the difference is Allen had some pretty good stats this year, I think if Buffalo got some insurance for it, I think Buffalo would take on him as a chance because it is only 1 year.

Sure Allen has done fine, but here's the comparison:

Hutton's last year with the Blues:
32 starts | 2.09 GAA | 0.931 SV%

Allen this year:
24 starts | 2.15 GAA | .927 SV%

Blues defense is just too good and inflates goalies numbers above what they'd be on a less deep team.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

I'm sure I will look back in 2 years and say "If only we had Jake Allen"

probably not, but at the same time, it's going to be another few years of Hutton. After last year, I really think Allen switching in for Hutton might do them both good. Hutton isn't used to prime minutes he's used to playing as a 1A-1B goalie same with Allen so owning the tandem....look what you have both aren't as tired and can run some pretty well done performances.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.

Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit

To place on that some of it isn't based on our team at all. A goalie has to be given credit either way, you can't win games without the goalie doing well.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.

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FloppyBiscuit

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

To place on that some of it isn't based on our team at all. A goalie has to be given credit either way, you can't win games without the goalie doing well.

So you're saying that the team around a goalie has little effect on their performance?

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.

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Why trade for and sign faulk then?

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.

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Ragsandbluesfan

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And the isles literally got pageau for 3C

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.

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littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

Hutton is in the last year of his deal and already is the back up

Apr. 10, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.

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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

okay then....it's gonna be another few years of a struggle for the Sabres.

One guy you haven't mentioned is Ullmark though. He's still relatively young and had good numbers on a bad defensive team last year.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.

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Shylo_Moxii

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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit

So you're saying that the team around a goalie has little effect on their performance?

it has a good amount of effect, but you are taking a Goalies skill COMPLETELY out of the argument which is a big no no. If the goalie doesn't have skill you are still gonna get scored on. It's a team game no goalie you lose, no skaters you lose. So you have to seriously consider his skill in the question you are making it out. That a team win has nothing to do with the goalie which is extremely false.

Apr. 10, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.

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A_K

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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit

So you're saying that the team around a goalie has little effect on their performance?

Quoting: BeastModeUnknown

FYI EvolvingHockey has a Goals Saved Above Expected (GSAx) stat that is free. If you accept their xG model then it eliminates the effects of the team in front of the goalie and just focuses on shot quality and saves. Overall, Allen has performed worse than Hutton over the past 3 seasons (-23 vs -14 in 16% more ice time), but Allen had much better numbers in '19-20 (7 GSAx vs Hutton's -13.5). I think it would be foolish for a team to narrow in on Allen's '19-20 numbers, but GMs are foolish all the time so it's hard to predict his trade value...

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Apr. 10, 2020 at 2:54 p.m.

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STLBlues17

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Quoting: A_K

In a normal year, I’d predict Allen could get the Elliott return (35th overall and a conditional 3rd) but with so few teams having disposable cap, it’s likely gonna be a much smaller return.

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Apr. 10, 2020 at 3:06 p.m.

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Quoting: STLBlues17

In a normal year, I’d predict Allen could get the Elliott return (35th overall and a conditional 3rd) but with so few teams having disposable cap, it’s likely gonna be a much smaller return.

Not much cap space to go around, plus a bunch of UFA goalies of varying quality. I don't think we'll be able to leverage much at all, but moving the cap might be worth more than anything we can get in return.

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Apr. 10, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.

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We're not throwing Bortz away, he's far too valuable at his cap hit. Especially as Reinke (who is much more an offensive D anyway) regressed quite a bit this season.

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