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Created by: Jameshgfgn
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2020
Published: Apr. 25, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$700,000
3$1,950,000
1$1,000,000
5$5,750,000
6$3,240,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Askarov, Yaroslav
3$925,000
Trades
1.
NJD
    Future consideration in future trade
    2.
    TOR
      CBO
      3.
      TOR
      1. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
      BUF
      1. Engvall, Pierre
      2. Johnsson, Andreas
      3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
      4.
      NJD
      1. Bracco, Jeremy [RFA Rights]
      2. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
      3. Kerfoot, Alexander
      4. Marner, Mitchell
      5. Woll, Joseph
      6. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
      7. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
      8. 2020 5th round pick (VGK)
      9. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
      5.
      TOR
        Yaroslav Askarov
        VAN
        1. 2020 1st round pick (ARI)
        6.
        ARI
        1. 2020 6th round pick (TOR)
        2. 2021 5th round pick (TOR)
        7.
        TOR
        1. 2020 7th round pick (VGK)
        Additional Details:
        CBO Schneider
        VGK
        Retained Salary Transactions
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2020
        Logo of the CAR
        Logo of the COL
        Logo of the SJS
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the WPG
        Logo of the VGK
        2021
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        2022
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the TOR
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        20$81,500,000$81,475,116$0$0$24,884
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $6,962,366$6,962,366
        RW
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $11,640,250$11,640,250
        C
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $2,250,000$2,250,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $1,250,000$1,250,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $11,000,000$11,000,000
        C, LW
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        $5,750,000$5,750,000
        LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $821,667$821,667
        LW, RW
        RFA - 4
        Logo of the New Jersey Devils
        $7,250,000$7,250,000
        C
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $3,200,000$3,200,000
        RW
        UFA - 2
        $1,950,000$1,950,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $700,000$700,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $925,000$925,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        LD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New Jersey Devils
        $4,166,666$4,166,666
        RD
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $5,625,000$5,625,000
        LD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        $3,240,000$3,240,000
        RD
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $1,650,000$1,650,000
        G
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $894,167$894,167
        LD
        UFA - 2
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        RD
        UFA
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
        $5,275,000$5,275,000
        RW
        NMC
        UFA - 1

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        Apr. 25, 2020 at 3:33 p.m.
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        Huge overpayment on the 2nd NJD trade
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.
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        Quoting: Mitch1_6
        Huge overpayment on the 2nd NJD trade

        Yeah but figured that would be the only way they would ever do it or think about it
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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        kerfoot does not want to go to NJ. When he was drafted he refused to play for them which is why Colorado picked him up.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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        In general most of those trades be unrealistic and would not benefit the team.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.
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        PatrickKaneIsGOAT
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        Quoting: Mitch1_6
        Huge overpayment on the 2nd NJD trade


        Quoting: Jameshgfgn
        Yeah but figured that would be the only way they would ever do it or think about it


        Quoting: aadoyle
        In general most of those trades be unrealistic and would not benefit the team.


        Leafs should CBO Marner. That guy is a waste of space on the ice.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Leafs should CBO Marner. That guy is a waste of space on the ice.


        Lol u don’t even know what ur talking about. Cbo a 94 pt scorer last season, and 67 this year... really smart
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        Apr. 25, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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        Quoting: Mitch1_6
        Lol u don’t even know what ur talking about. Cbo a 94 pt scorer last season, and 67 this year... really smart


        He’s the most vastly overpaid player in the game. Honestly, he’s just not built for the NHL. He’s small, weak & soft. He always gets knocked over & refuses to hit & fight. He doesn’t have the talent to make up for his poor physique. In a few seasons he’ll be out of the league. He gets carried by Auston Matthews & is only good at generating secondary assists, which is a worthless stat. The Leafs were better off giving that roster spot to Jeremy Bracco, could’ve saved them 11 million.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        He’s the most vastly overpaid player in the game. Honestly, he’s just not built for the NHL. He’s small, weak & soft. He always gets knocked over & refuses to hit & fight. He doesn’t have the talent to make up for his poor physique. In a few seasons he’ll be out of the league. He gets carried by Auston Matthews & is only good at generating secondary assists, which is a worthless stat. The Leafs were better off giving that roster spot to Jeremy Bracco, could’ve saved them 11 million.


        Will you stop with you’re nonsense that marner is worse than Loui Ericsson
        You have non stop not stopped trash talking Marner saying that he’s bad, useless and overpaid, only one of them is correct and that’s the overpaid area, he’s overpaid because of Babcock p, how does a guy with 94 points Playing WITH TAVARES suck. You said he played with Matthews all of last season, no he played with Tavares. Now do the best thing possible. Stop with you’re nonsense on marner you troll
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
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        Will you stop with you’re nonsense that marner is worse than Loui Ericsson
        You have non stop not stopped trash talking Marner saying that he’s bad, useless and overpaid, only one of them is correct and that’s the overpaid area, he’s overpaid because of Babcock p, how does a guy with 94 points Playing WITH TAVARES suck. You said he played with Matthews all of last season, no he played with Tavares. Now do the best thing possible. Stop with you’re nonsense on marner you troll


        Hes incredibly biased. He thinks murican's are better then everyone. In his eyes Chelios>Orr, Tkachuk>Marner, Kane>Crosby and Tavares, Matthews>MacKinnon. He said McDavid was carried by Debrincat in junior and Barzal is carried by Lee. Just go back and look at his posts and see how insane this guy is
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        Apr. 25, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Leafs should CBO Marner. That guy is a waste of space on the ice.


        i'd rather CBO Nylander
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jack_
        Hes incredibly biased. He thinks murican's are better then everyone. In his eyes Chelios>Orr, Tkachuk>Marner, Kane>Crosby and Tavares, Matthews>MacKinnon. He said McDavid was carried by Debrincat in junior and Barzal is carried by Lee. Just go back and look at his posts and see how insane this guy is


        Ur so right.
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        Apr. 25, 2020 at 6:10 p.m.
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        Quoting: onion
        i'd rather CBO Nylander


        Nylander sucks just as much as Marner but why wouldn’t you dump the more expensive player?
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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        Quoting: StoneFan
        Will you stop with you’re nonsense that marner is worse than Loui Ericsson
        You have non stop not stopped trash talking Marner saying that he’s bad, useless and overpaid, only one of them is correct and that’s the overpaid area, he’s overpaid because of Babcock p, how does a guy with 94 points Playing WITH TAVARES suck. You said he played with Matthews all of last season, no he played with Tavares. Now do the best thing possible. Stop with you’re nonsense on marner you troll


        Quoting: Jack_
        Hes incredibly biased. He thinks murican's are better then everyone. In his eyes Chelios>Orr, Tkachuk>Marner, Kane>Crosby and Tavares, Matthews>MacKinnon. He said McDavid was carried by Debrincat in junior and Barzal is carried by Lee. Just go back and look at his posts and see how insane this guy is


        Quoting: Mitch1_6
        Ur so right.


        Sure Marner put up a lot of points last season, but let’s dive into the details. At even strength, he was nonsensical & performed like a replacement level player. He was 1% above the league average in terms of generating offence & 9% below the league in defensive contribution. He was only good on the powerplay when he shared the ice with Matthews. This season, he’s put up a massive improvement in terms of driving offence, he’s 6% above league average as well as 13% above league defense. It’s not a coincidence that this guy started to become good after riding on Matthews’ coattail full time. He’s a bum.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Sure Marner put up a lot of points last season, but let’s dive into the details. At even strength, he was nonsensical & performed like a replacement level player. He was 1% above the league average in terms of generating offence & 9% below the league in defensive contribution. He was only good on the powerplay when he shared the ice with Matthews. This season, he’s put up a massive improvement in terms of driving offence, he’s 6% above league average as well as 13% above league defense. It’s not a coincidence that this guy started to become good after riding on Matthews’ coattail full time. He’s a bum.


        Congratulations, you’re EA Logic makes 0 sense
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        Apr. 25, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Sure Marner put up a lot of points last season, but let’s dive into the details. At even strength, he was nonsensical & performed like a replacement level player. He was 1% above the league average in terms of generating offence & 9% below the league in defensive contribution. He was only good on the powerplay when he shared the ice with Matthews. This season, he’s put up a massive improvement in terms of driving offence, he’s 6% above league average as well as 13% above league defense. It’s not a coincidence that this guy started to become good after riding on Matthews’ coattail full time. He’s a bum.


        Where did these numbers come from?
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 6:26 p.m.
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        Quoting: StoneFan
        Congratulations, you’re EA Logic makes 0 sense


        Quoting: Jack_
        Where did these numbers come from?


        Miccah Blake McCurdy’s diagram.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 6:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Miccah Blake McCurdy’s diagram.


        If you are going to use his model you should at least get the numbers right. His charts are extremely valuable but you are just making **** up. Relative to league average Marner is +29% offensively and +3% defensively. Hes a bit below league average defensively. The leafs without him are +8% offensively and +9% defensively. The leafs are one of the best teams in the league when marner is on the ice. Hes also talented enough to outshoot his expected goals without it regressing.

        Kane on the other hand is a net negative. +5% offensively and +23% defensively is atrocious. The Blackhawks are better when kane isnt on the ice. +4% offensively and +17% defensively is still very bad but they are better without him. At his cap hit they might get a 5th round pick for him but with what we know about aging curves a soon to be 32 year old winger who makes the Blackhawks (a team who is already bad) worse when best playing wont get much at all. You have to be really bad to make a team that bad worse
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 9:51 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Nylander sucks just as much as Marner but why wouldn’t you dump the more expensive player?


        you're foolish if you think Marner is bad
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:00 p.m.
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        Quoting: HattrickKane88
        Sure Marner put up a lot of points last season, but let’s dive into the details. At even strength, he was nonsensical & performed like a replacement level player. He was 1% above the league average in terms of generating offence & 9% below the league in defensive contribution. He was only good on the powerplay when he shared the ice with Matthews. This season, he’s put up a massive improvement in terms of driving offence, he’s 6% above league average as well as 13% above league defense. It’s not a coincidence that this guy started to become good after riding on Matthews’ coattail full time. He’s a bum.

        Nylander said that he had chemistry with Matthews, bull****, it was Nylander riding the coattail
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:27 p.m.
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        Quoting: onion
        Nylander said that he had chemistry with Matthews, bull****, it was Nylander riding the coattail


        Both guys were riding Matthews’ coattail.
        Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jack_
        If you are going to use his model you should at least get the numbers right. His charts are extremely valuable but you are just making **** up. Relative to league average Marner is +29% offensively and +3% defensively. Hes a bit below league average defensively. The leafs without him are +8% offensively and +9% defensively. The leafs are one of the best teams in the league when marner is on the ice. Hes also talented enough to outshoot his expected goals without it regressing.

        Kane on the other hand is a net negative. +5% offensively and +23% defensively is atrocious. The Blackhawks are better when kane isnt on the ice. +4% offensively and +17% defensively is still very bad but they are better without him. At his cap hit they might get a 5th round pick for him but with what we know about aging curves a soon to be 32 year old winger who makes the Blackhawks (a team who is already bad) worse when best playing wont get much at all. You have to be really bad to make a team that bad worse


        You don’t seem to understand that a forward’s job is to score goals & Kane is one of the best at doing that with multiple 40 goal seasons. No one cares if you don’t play defense as long as you’re scoring goals. All Marner does is earn secondary assists which is a worthless stat. Sure he generates more, but no one cares if you can’t put the puck in the net. Not to mention his playoff performances are abysmal too. Kane is the most feared Forward in the league & a matchup nightmare for the opposition. Let’s not forget that Marner has scored at the same rate as Connor Brown over the last few seasons. That is beyond embarrassing.
         
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