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Kessel with no retainer

Created by: AllJonedOut
Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2020
Published: Apr. 25, 2020
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Free Agent Signings
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3$3,250,000
1$700,000
1$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$800,000
1$1,300,000
1$700,000
1$2,000,000
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1.
ARI
  1. Sörensen, Marcus
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (PIT)
2.
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  1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
CBJ
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (COL)
  2. 2020 5th round pick (SJS)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$75,248,333$0$277,500$7,251,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$768,333$768,333 (Performance Bonus$65,000$65K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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C
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RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 2
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$700,000$700,000
RD
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Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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If I need to add let me know. Will add chek and 3rd as potential assets
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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You probably have to add. Kessel didn't have the greatest offensive season but no one in Arizona has managed to put up great offensive numbers
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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Kessel will block any trade. I'm pretty sure on that.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:33 p.m.
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Decent team

If Jones and/or Dell can get better than we could probably make the playoffs via a wildcard spot.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:35 p.m.
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Kessel will block any trade. I'm pretty sure on that.


yep and he honestly if there is a CBO i would not be surprised if he is one of the candidates
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
Kessel will block any trade. I'm pretty sure on that.


He only has a M-NTC. I doubt San Jose would be on that list.

Edit: Never mind he has a full. I still think he would be open
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
You probably have to add. Kessel didn't have the greatest offensive season but no one in Arizona has managed to put up great offensive numbers


How much?
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: JumboJoe
Decent team

If Jones and/or Dell can get better than we could probably make the playoffs via a wildcard spot.


I like this offense a lot. I’m good with the defense especially if rutta can be a good in his own zone d-man. Goaltending, if we get nabby back I feel good. Since bob took over our numbers have been average, which would be fine with offense and defense in front of it. If we had a better cap I would consider Allen or Murray but we have no money for either
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:51 p.m.
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I like this offense a lot. I’m good with the defense especially if rutta can be a good in his own zone d-man. Goaltending, if we get nabby back I feel good. Since bob took over our numbers have been average, which would be fine with offense and defense in front of it. If we had a better cap I would consider Allen or Murray but we have no money for either


Offense is fine, wouldn't say I like it a lot. Defense is solid.

Yeah, hopefully Nabokov helping Jones mixed with Boughner's defensive prowess will be able to get our goaltending good again, or at least average.
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Apr. 25, 2020 at 11:01 p.m.
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Kessel is not a player the sharks should go after at all, he has 2 years left on his deal and is an ineffective player who has to have offense spoon fed to him to keep going. Not to mention he is probably the worst defensive player in the league.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 11:11 p.m.
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As his dentist, I can confirm that Phil Kessel does, in fact, have a retainer.

And whatever you're suggesting is 100% against my recommendations.
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Apr. 25, 2020 at 11:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Klara
Kessel is not a player the sharks should go after at all, he has 2 years left on his deal and is an ineffective player who has to have offense spoon fed to him to keep going. Not to mention he is probably the worst defensive player in the league.


We have had this guy Patrick Marleau. He isn’t particularly good at defense. How long has he been the league?
Apr. 25, 2020 at 11:24 p.m.
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We have had this guy Patrick Marleau. He isn’t particularly good at defense. How long has he been the league?


Quite a bit different scale.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 11:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Klara
Quite a bit different scale.


Not really. Both are/were elite wingers, that were born to play offense and don’t really care about defense.

Can I ask how the scale is different?
Apr. 26, 2020 at 12:16 a.m.
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Not really. Both are/were elite wingers, that were born to play offense and don’t really care about defense.

Can I ask how the scale is different?



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These charts represent a heavily modified Corsi Metric that I made to evaluate players, it is the normal corsi of a player with respect to the quality of chances, the score for the rest of the team, where the player takes face offs from (its a lot). Basically this stat will determine if a player is effective combined both ways, if a player has a chances against value that is higher than the value calculated of chances for, then they are below 50 (bad), the metric will also factor in where the player most often takes faceoffs, if they start in the Defensive zone more, their Corsi values are affected accordingly.

as you can see, Patrick Marleau has long kept up a very efficient career, when he is on the ice, the team gains a net positive impact, this has been the case for most of his career (not enough data available before 08-09).

Meanwhile over in Kessel-ville, despite the fact that he scores a ton (which the algorithm considers), he gives up so many chances and is overwhelmingly starting in the offensive zone, that his net impact on the team, is negative, meaning, the team is doing BETTER when he is not on the ice, this has been the case since even before he was traded to Pittsburgh. this is a result of him having some of the biggest oZS% in the league, over 60% the past 5 years. with the CA value adjusted based on his Zone starts, its really really bad for Phil.

TLDR: Phil is so unbelievable bad in the defensive zone, his heavily inflated offensive numbers aren't enough to total out to him being effective.
 
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