drewjenks

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Forum: Armchair-GMJun 20 at 7:38
Thread: Interesting
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>yeah, that's bad for Toronto.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheLeafsSeason</b></div><div>Leafs decline and block Adams number. I also think Adam is incapable in attempting to fleece the Leafs.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>Right because Kapanen, a 30-40 point 3rd line winger is more valuable than a top 4 two way defenseman with good defensive ability which is exactly the kind of dman the Leafs need...

I know you are a Leafs fan and you like to overvalue your players, it's just what you guys do and all you know but this is fair value...</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>He's a top 6 winger who could have gotten 50 points this year and most likely will next year as well as a top 4 young dman...</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheLeafsSeason</b></div><div>Montour is not the defensemen the Leafs need. Maybe for a Johnsson, but if we are trading Kappy, I would rather use him for a Manson.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>why? TOR is getting the better player.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>Kapanen has quickly become this website's most overrated player... overtaking Athanasiou and Kase from pre-trade deadline.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>meh it should still be top 3 protected</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>And Manson is a HUGE upgrade over Montour?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>junoandkeisha</b></div><div>Johnnson instead of Kapanen and it is a deal</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>this is hilarious coming from you</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheLeafsSeason</b></div><div>Yes.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>I wouldn't make the trade then.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>As long as Jokiharju, Pesce and Dylan Strome exist, Kapanen wont crack the top 3 over rated players on this site.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>Please elaborate.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>The issue with Montour is buffalo fans cannot decide what he is. Some say he is top 2, some say hes a bottom pairing, and a good amount think trading for him was a mistake. All i can say is hes an option for us to consider</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>That's because Buffalo has Risto, Joki, Miller, and him. Those are all top 4 defenders.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Montour is 'ok'. He's an alright number 4 guy who is relatively useful in a few situations. He cant carry a pairing, he cant run either special team but he's fine with a decent partner.
Hes basically a worse version of Justin Holl at this point with significantly better PR.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheLeafsSeason</b></div><div>Would you trade Johansson for Cody Ceci?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>leafs fans are delusional in regards to kapanen. i wouldn't drop a 2nd for him. his value is taken to an extreme when in reality he's a generic third liner with some fringe 2nd line capability.

pesce rightfully gets a boost because his contract is so appealing... and he's a top 3 defenseman on any team in the league. jokiharju is mostly just in the boat of "whoa we fleeced chicago", and strome... maybe, but he's also a center in a desirable position and age</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheLeafsSeason</b></div><div>If Kapanen did not play the way he did in the second half of the season, arguably when Clifford joined the Leafs, we wouldn't be praising him this hard. In the beginning of the season, many Leaf fans were contemplating on whether we should trade Kappy after his horrible start (the stick toss incident against the Habs). However, to me, I feel like we are starting to get Kadri vibes with him.</div></div>

<strong>Kapanen </strong>= 34 even-strength points this year (68 games)
<strong>Reinhart </strong>= 38 even-strength points this year (69 games)

Even if we ignore the fact that Reinhart got roughly <strong>FIVE </strong>extra minutes in ice-time per game.
The <strong>ONLY </strong>thing separating their point totals is that Reinhart gets power-play time and Kapanen doesn't.
Kapanen does kill penalties like a beast though (he also got all his points on Kerfoots line this year - not Eichels line).

The <em>"Kapanen is a 30-40 point 3rd liner"</em> comments are kind of ridiculous.
He projects to 60-70 points per 82 games on a #1 PP unit (and he would be on Buffalo's).
His stats were even better last year too.

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On an unrelated note ... most of the above signings are unrealistic ... Skinner got $9,000,000 x 8 years.
How can Buffalo get 4 (arguably better) forwards with better production to all sign for $5,500,000 or less?
Come on now.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14 at 2:13