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Potential Eichel Deal

Created by: Caniac2000
Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2020
Published: May 28, 2020
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In a trade, Carolina's score players are not being touched. That's Svech, Aho, TT, Necas, Slavin Dougie, Pesce. What else needs to be added here? How far out is it? Should someone like Bean be included? That could be done too, let me know how far off it is.
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2$2,250,000
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CAR
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    2.
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    1. Eichel, Jack
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    He deserves better than Buffalol
    BUF
    1. Keane, Joey
    2. Niederreiter, Nino
    3. Skjei, Brady
    4. Suzuki, Ryan
    5. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
    6. 2020 2nd round pick (NYR)
    7. 2021 1st round pick (CAR)
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    20$81,500,000$73,213,988$1,367,073$3,707,500$8,286,012
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
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    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
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    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    C
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    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
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    $763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $4,050,000$4,050,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $4,025,000$4,025,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
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    $3,125,000$3,125,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    LD/RD
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    May 28, 2020 at 6:54 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Slavin is a top 5 D man league wide. Eichel *might* be a top 25 forward.... you keep the D man all day long.


    LMAO
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    May 28, 2020 at 7:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    Then ur not getting eichel it’s that simple


    Find me a trade where a player wants out and they got a core player back that was known to be a core player at the time.
    May 28, 2020 at 7:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    LMAO


    LOL
    May 28, 2020 at 7:25 p.m.
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    This has to be one of the most bias post threads I have ever seen.

    Keep it up, I miss hockey enough I'll encourage this arguement

    PS. Come on, not even Necas?
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    May 28, 2020 at 7:32 p.m.
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    I agree that core players very rarely get a huge return in a market, but it would be similar to the Tyler Seguin deal back when he got swapped for Loui Eriksson, who averaged ~ 30 goals in the four seasons leading up to his trade. Eichel has had better numbers than Seguin at the time and doesn't have character flaws like Seguin. Hard to see Buffalo moving him for this return though.
    May 28, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Find me a trade where a player wants out and they got a core player back that was known to be a core player at the time.


    Asking out or not buffalo gets a better offer then that lmao that. That’s garbage overvaluing ur players like always.
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    May 28, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Slavin is a top 5 D man league wide. Eichel *might* be a top 25 forward.... you keep the D man all day long.


    Eichel is a top 5 forward and “might” doesn’t come into the equation. You need to take your red white and black glasses off for a second.
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    May 29, 2020 at 7:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: phillyjabroni
    I agree that core players very rarely get a huge return in a market, but it would be similar to the Tyler Seguin deal back when he got swapped for Loui Eriksson, who averaged ~ 30 goals in the four seasons leading up to his trade. Eichel has had better numbers than Seguin at the time and doesn't have character flaws like Seguin. Hard to see Buffalo moving him for this return though.


    Eriksson wasn't viewed as a core player at the time. He was viewed as one of the most underrated forwards in the league, but thinking back to that roster, I don't know I'd call him a core player. That said, I'm not saying this is the best return, I just had to make the cap work which is why Skjei is included. I know there's pieces missing, I just don't know what.
    May 29, 2020 at 7:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lord_Simek
    Eichel is a top 5 forward and “might” doesn’t come into the equation. You need to take your red white and black glasses off for a second.


    He's not better than
    McDavid
    Crosby
    Ovechkin
    Kucherov
    Stone
    Draisaitl
    MacKinnon
    Barkov
    Panarin
    Matthews
    Tavares
    Pastrnak
    Marchand
    Bergeron.
    I could go on, that's off the top of my head. He's NOT a top 20 forward. To say he is is a lie. You need to look at any form of statistics, or on-ice performance to see it.
    May 29, 2020 at 7:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    Asking out or not buffalo gets a better offer then that lmao that. That’s garbage overvaluing ur players like always.


    Lmao, undervaluing players who're actually good, like always.
    May 29, 2020 at 7:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    This has to be one of the most bias post threads I have ever seen.

    Keep it up, I miss hockey enough I'll encourage this arguement

    PS. Come on, not even Necas?


    Necas one of two RH forwards on the team, and he's SO young. I know Eichel is RH, but there's still a shortage of RH shots among the forward core, which is why I included Suzuki instead. Niederreiter plays one of the best 2-way games in hockey and has a 20-30 goal upside. Skjei is a top 4 puck mover, which gives them a platform to flip Ristolainen and have a balanced D core. I'm not saying the value is there, I'm asking what else needs to be added. But for a deal, Carolina isn't moving Pesce, Slavin, Dougie, Aho, TT, Svech or Necas because they are the "core" of the team.
    May 29, 2020 at 8:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Lmao, undervaluing players who're actually good, like always.


    I mean not at all no one agrees with you lmao
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    May 29, 2020 at 8:32 a.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    I mean not at all no one agrees with you lmao


    Stats agree with me... so facts agree with me lmao
    May 29, 2020 at 8:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Stats agree with me... so facts agree with me lmao


    What r u talking about lmao that’s just embarrassing
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    May 29, 2020 at 8:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    What r u talking about lmao that’s just embarrassing


    Analytics agree with me. numbers don't lie wink You're embarrassing yourself disagreeing with stats.
    May 29, 2020 at 8:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Analytics agree with me. numbers don't lie wink You're embarrassing yourself disagreeing with stats.


    Couple avg nhl players a meh prospect and a late 1st for a top 5 c keep dreaming
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    May 29, 2020 at 8:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    Couple avg nhl players a meh prospect and a late 1st for a top 5 c keep dreaming


    Eichel is not a top 5 C, Bean is the best D prospect right now not in the NHL, Suzuki is a high-end forward prospect, Nino isn't meh, he's one of the best two way forwards in the NHL. Skjei is a cap dump, but he's a viable top 4 D man, and gives Buffalo another LD because they have like 6 RD. So you clearly don't know what you're on about buddy. I'm not saying the value is there, but your valuation is wrong.
    May 29, 2020 at 8:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Eichel is not a top 5 C, Bean is the best D prospect right now not in the NHL, Suzuki is a high-end forward prospect, Nino isn't meh, he's one of the best two way forwards in the NHL. Skjei is a cap dump, but he's a viable top 4 D man, and gives Buffalo another LD because they have like 6 RD. So you clearly don't know what you're on about buddy. I'm not saying the value is there, but your valuation is wrong.


    You just downplay eichel and way overvalued your own team wake up
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    May 29, 2020 at 8:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    You just downplay eichel and way overvalued your own team wake up


    Nope, I fairly valuate both my team and Eichel. Eichel is just overrated. Not my fault stats expose what he really is.
    May 29, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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    Wow, just wow. Homerism at it's finest! tears of joy
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    May 29, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
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    Wow, just wow. Homerism at it's finest! tears of joy


    On what grounds?
    May 29, 2020 at 9:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    He's not better than
    McDavid
    Crosby
    Ovechkin
    Kucherov
    Stone
    Draisaitl
    MacKinnon
    Barkov
    Panarin
    Matthews
    Tavares
    Pastrnak
    Marchand
    Bergeron.
    I could go on, that's off the top of my head. He's NOT a top 20 forward. To say he is is a lie. You need to look at any form of statistics, or on-ice performance to see it.

    You have to take age and years of team control into account too. Eichel has less value than McDavid, Kucherov, Draisaitl and MacKinnon, but I'm not sure any of the others guys you listed have more value.

    I suspect there's no convincing you. Your bias is too strong.
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    May 29, 2020 at 9:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    On what grounds?


    Every single syllable you wrote.
    May 29, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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    You have to take age and years of team control into account too. Eichel has less value than McDavid, Kucherov, Draisaitl and MacKinnon, but I'm not sure any of the others guys you listed have more value.

    I suspect there's no convincing you. Your bias is too strong.


    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713045904952786995/715910991514173531/image0.png

    We're not talking value, we're talking Skill. Please read previous comments. Eichel's age, term and team control etc don't matter because of his age, term, and team control do not affect his skill. In terms of value, McDavid, Kucherov, Draisaitl, MacKinnon, Barkov, Matthews all have more value because they produce better for equal or less cap hits.

    You're not convincing me because stats don't lie. I'm basing this purely off stats.
    May 29, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: CD282
    Every single syllable you wrote.


    Try re-reading, because you're clearly not reading this correctly
     
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