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If Gaudreau goes to his hometown what does it take

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Habs123
Before trash talking look at the title


Whoa fella! Not trash talking, just saying there would be other teams offering way more. If Calgary wants to move Gaudreau they can trade him to any team they want, not take a bad deal to appease the player's preferred destination.
Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.
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What's he worth? As of right now I consider him a 2 year rental but a damn good rental at that. I'd want Farabee but I think Flyers would just decline due to him being a long-term fix in the top 6 with or without Gaudreau. So I'd pivot to prospects instead. Bobby Brink and Cam York would be 2 immediate prospects I'd have my eye on. I'd pick Cam but based on what you feel, insert either him or Bobby into the package. Then I'd choose JVR. He's not Gaudreau but he will still provide a great value to a Flames team that's fighting for the playoffs year after year. I'm sure the Flyers would oblige considering they'll need cap space to resign Gaudreau, Farabee, Sanheim, etc. Plus, he's under contract for another year longer than Gaudreau. So now we have JVR and Cam York vs. Gaudreau. Since I'm really high on Cam, I'd say this is getting close but needs a little sweetener. How about JVR, Cam York and a 2020 2nd for Gaudreau?
Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:24 p.m.
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Rooney
Isn't Gaudreau from New Jersey?


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most flyers live in New Jersey...its right across the river and its cheaper


Even though he's from Jersey, he's from south Jersey and like Coga said, Philadelphia is right across the river from south Jersey. North Jersey is Devils, South Jersey is Flyers.
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 2:46 p.m.
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Quoting: mnwild1790
Even though he's from Jersey, he's from south Jersey and like Coga said, Philadelphia is right across the river from south Jersey. North Jersey is Devils, South Jersey is Flyers.


As a Canadian I appreciate both of your insight...I have been to Pennsylvania once (Pittsburgh) for a hockey tournament but had no idea Philadelphia was so close to New Jersey!
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 3:40 p.m.
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We are not taking career wise it’s THIS year
Wait... did Gaudreau make the all star........ Nope
Wait.... did Konecny make the all star ...... YES


LMAO you want to take ONE year as sample size? That's a terrible way to evaluate a player.
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 3:44 p.m.
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you really have a hard time of grasping the value of Age and contract as valuable assets....one is 23 signed for 5 more years at 5.5m. Gaudreau 27 2years left at 6.7m. Aging curves are a real thing as well
Thats why they wouldnt do a 1 for 1.

and if you watched Gaudreau and his issues..you wouldnt want to trade away young assets for 2 years of a guy who refuses to compete especially in the playoffs.
Him having 1 90 point season with a career high, with every other flame player having career high with high PDOs and eveything going right for them (look it up)...thats why they were so easy to be bounced in the 1st round despite winning the west....big part of that was how Johnny refused to engage in playoff hockey


PHI needs to start winning **** and getting Gaudreau instantly puts them up that next level. He's also from Philly so he'd easily re-sign there.

You'd have to go back to Gaudreau's rookie year when he didn't lead his team by points and he was freakn 21. Every other season he led, usually by 10+ points. Gaudreau drives his team, drives his line, Konecny does neither, not even close. Again, Konecny is great, he isn't Gaudreau though.
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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What's he worth? As of right now I consider him a 2 year rental but a damn good rental at that. I'd want Farabee but I think Flyers would just decline due to him being a long-term fix in the top 6 with or without Gaudreau. So I'd pivot to prospects instead. Bobby Brink and Cam York would be 2 immediate prospects I'd have my eye on. I'd pick Cam but based on what you feel, insert either him or Bobby into the package. Then I'd choose JVR. He's not Gaudreau but he will still provide a great value to a Flames team that's fighting for the playoffs year after year. I'm sure the Flyers would oblige considering they'll need cap space to resign Gaudreau, Farabee, Sanheim, etc. Plus, he's under contract for another year longer than Gaudreau. So now we have JVR and Cam York vs. Gaudreau. Since I'm really high on Cam, I'd say this is getting close but needs a little sweetener. How about JVR, Cam York and a 2020 2nd for Gaudreau?


No to JVR, hands down.
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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No to JVR, hands down.


From what side? Flames or Flyers? I know you're a Leafs fan so i'm not sure what side you're coming from here
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:06 p.m.
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What's he worth? As of right now I consider him a 2 year rental but a damn good rental at that. I'd want Farabee but I think Flyers would just decline due to him being a long-term fix in the top 6 with or without Gaudreau. So I'd pivot to prospects instead. Bobby Brink and Cam York would be 2 immediate prospects I'd have my eye on. I'd pick Cam but based on what you feel, insert either him or Bobby into the package. Then I'd choose JVR. He's not Gaudreau but he will still provide a great value to a Flames team that's fighting for the playoffs year after year. I'm sure the Flyers would oblige considering they'll need cap space to resign Gaudreau, Farabee, Sanheim, etc. Plus, he's under contract for another year longer than Gaudreau. So now we have JVR and Cam York vs. Gaudreau. Since I'm really high on Cam, I'd say this is getting close but needs a little sweetener. How about JVR, Cam York and a 2020 2nd for Gaudreau?


Gaudreau drives the play when hes on the ice.
And Flames a need C.

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Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Habs123
Should we add Ghost or no? With Konecny


Nah Flames need center prospects at least Frost or Patrick has to be involved
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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From what side? Flames or Flyers? I know you're a Leafs fan so i'm not sure what side you're coming from here


Flames side, they dont need a LW.
If Patrick's future wasn't in question that I would have added him.
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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What's he worth? As of right now I consider him a 2 year rental but a damn good rental at that. I'd want Farabee but I think Flyers would just decline due to him being a long-term fix in the top 6 with or without Gaudreau. So I'd pivot to prospects instead. Bobby Brink and Cam York would be 2 immediate prospects I'd have my eye on. I'd pick Cam but based on what you feel, insert either him or Bobby into the package. Then I'd choose JVR. He's not Gaudreau but he will still provide a great value to a Flames team that's fighting for the playoffs year after year. I'm sure the Flyers would oblige considering they'll need cap space to resign Gaudreau, Farabee, Sanheim, etc. Plus, he's under contract for another year longer than Gaudreau. So now we have JVR and Cam York vs. Gaudreau. Since I'm really high on Cam, I'd say this is getting close but needs a little sweetener. How about JVR, Cam York and a 2020 2nd for Gaudreau?


Definitely not this, JVR is a cap dump in this scenario, since Gaudreau has term his value sits at what Hall got + another 1st probably
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.
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Gaudreau drives the play when hes on the ice.
And Flames need C.

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I get that. I don't think Farabee will be available from Flyers point of view. They'll want him getting top 6 minutes asap and adding Gaudreau plus keeping JVR would obviously clog that up. But if you're saying no to JVR let's see. Do you think Frost, York 1st and 2nd? I'm not sure the Flames will accept but does that get closer?
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:22 p.m.
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Definitely not this, JVR is a cap dump in this scenario, since Gaudreau has term his value sits at what Hall got + another 1st probably


Fair, Trickster was just telling me that too. I guess in my mind it was fair but you would know better than me. So how about this, Frost to add a future center, York to fill future LD void by Giordano, and a 1st + 2nd? Is this fair?
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:31 p.m.
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Fair, Trickster was just telling me that too. I guess in my mind it was fair but you would know better than me. So how about this, Frost to add a future center, York to fill future LD void by Giordano, and a 1st + 2nd? Is this fair?


Probably closer, I think the LD void is already pretty well covered in CGY though with Hanifin (still only just turned 23) and Valimaki.
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Probably closer, I think the LD void is already pretty well covered in CGY though with Hanifin (still only just turned 23) and Valimaki.


Fair. I just figured York has tremendous upside. Hanifin's lack of offensive production scared me last year. He's obviously at minimum a 2nd pairing D but just in case he doesn't become that bonafide 1D I thought York would be a good backup plan.
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.
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I get that. I don't think Farabee will be available from Flyers point of view. They'll want him getting top 6 minutes asap and adding Gaudreau plus keeping JVR would obviously clog that up. But if you're saying no to JVR let's see. Do you think Frost, York 1st and 2nd? I'm not sure the Flames will accept but does that get closer?


Dont need York, need to think of another piece
I think Flyers might have to include Konecny.

Dont see anyone else to add unless your hiding another FW in the closet that no one knows of.
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Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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Dont need York, need to think of another piece
I think Flyers might have to include Konecny.

Dont see anyone else to add unless your hiding another FW in the closet that no one knows of.


What about shipping JVR to team #3 that will take him and return from team #3 to Flames?
Jun. 17, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.
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Dont need York, need to think of another piece
I think Flyers might have to include Konecny.

Dont see anyone else to add unless your hiding another FW in the closet that no one knows of.


Haha not a Flyers fan so I don't know. Just a curious fan who keeps taking breaks from boring monotonous work. laugh Honestly just keep looking for a solution because I love doing this.

I just don't see Flyers sending off Konecny. He is improving year to year and just went 24/37/61 in 66 GP. Because of this I don't see the Flyers wanting to part with him or Farabee for that matter either. So I was curious to see if there was an alternate solution to making this deal work. That's all I'm searching for. To be honest, I don't know if Flyers/Flames would be good trade partners in this. I'm just going off of Thread starter's post and seeing if there could possibly be a solution.

I saw your other post about a 3rd team. That might be what makes this trade work. But who? Who's in dire need of a left winger?
Jun. 17, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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Haha not a Flyers fan so I don't know. Just a curious fan who keeps taking breaks from boring monotonous work. laugh Honestly just keep looking for a solution because I love doing this.

I just don't see Flyers sending off Konecny. He is improving year to year and just went 24/37/61 in 66 GP. Because of this I don't see the Flyers wanting to part with him or Farabee for that matter either. So I was curious to see if there was an alternate solution to making this deal work. That's all I'm searching for. To be honest, I don't know if Flyers/Flames would be good trade partners in this. I'm just going off of Thread starter's post and seeing if there could possibly be a solution.

I saw your other post about a 3rd team. That might be what makes this trade work. But who? Who's in dire need of a left winger?


I think Montreal (Tatar) and Colorado (Jost) could be fit but Flyers might to give sweetener to send JVR there.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:04 a.m.
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Probably starts with Konecny.


No chance lol, younger player, great cap hit, longer term.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:30 a.m.
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No chance lol, younger player, great cap hit, longer term.


Then you aren't getting Gaudreau. CGY is not in a rebuild mode so they'll need to get something good in return. The package here sucks. Gaudreau is much better than Konecny, PHI would be stupid not to make that trade.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 9:49 a.m.
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Then you aren't getting Gaudreau. CGY is not in a rebuild mode so they'll need to get something good in return. The package here sucks. Gaudreau is much better than Konecny, PHI would be stupid not to make that trade.


Funny to say Gaudreau is better than Konecny when Johnny had 18 goals and 58 points, and TK had 24 goals and 61 points with TK playing 2nd line for the last half of the season lol.

CGY will have to take someone other than TK. I'm curious if Johnny even signs in there again in 2 years when his contract is up. Plus he'll want a hefty raise.

So saying PHI is stupid to not make that trade? Lol the most Armchair GMs of GMs.
Jun. 24, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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Funny to say Gaudreau is better than Konecny when Johnny had 18 goals and 58 points, and TK had 24 goals and 61 points with TK playing 2nd line for the last half of the season lol.

CGY will have to take someone other than TK. I'm curious if Johnny even signs in there again in 2 years when his contract is up. Plus he'll want a hefty raise.

So saying PHI is stupid to not make that trade? Lol the most Armchair GMs of GMs.


You'd have to go back to Gaudreau's rookie year when he didn't lead his team by points and he was freakn 21. Every other season he led, usually by 10+ points. Gaudreau drives his team, drives his line, Konecny does neither, not even close. Again, Konecny is great, he isn't Gaudreau though.
 
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