Rickard Rakell.
Dan Heinen.
Sonny Milano.
Max Jones.
Where does Andreas Johnsson fit in? And why should we give up our fourth-line LW plus the 67th overall draft pick (which you left out of your Team Explanation) to acquire him?

As to the other SoCal team, the Kings have better prospects in the pipeline than SDA and James Greenway, so that trade is basically Kapanen for Lizotte and Roy. No, thanks.

for toughness, the oilers will give you khaira for free

AJ is better than Milano. Easily. And as of right now he’s better than Jones

If Dubas heard that word he would take it

Great. So we'll play him at #3 LW while having to move either Jones or Milano somewhere and paying our fourth-line LW and the 67th overall pick in this year's draft for the privilege? No, thanks.

Now THERE's an idea: Johnsson for Khaira and a 2021 fourth.

I'd rather just hang on to Johnsson. Why trade him when his value is at a low point given that the Kings trade makes the cap room to keep him?

I was debating to keep johnsson but getting value for him also is good as for Seattle Dubas probs lets them take Engvall or Kerfoot. Also that space will be gone pretty quickly with Hyman, Anderson, and Roy extensions. In general this helps plan for the future as depth is good and we can afford to keep everyone around especially important with the cap staying put for 3 years.

Its also good for robertson as if Kerfoot gets taken Mikehyv can move up and Robertson can play 3LW

kings trade was posted awhile ago and kings fans accepted it. Lizotte is expendable as they have center depth and Roy can be moved. Bringing in a top 6 RW in Kapenan will make that team better as Carter and Brown are not getting any younger. Kempe-Vilardi-Kapenan can be a solid 2nd line for the kings and if they draft Stuzle or Byfield it works. Greenway can become a solid bottom pairing massive LD for them and SDA can become a 3c or a depth winger for them.

I'd rather take the value he'd provide playing for the team. As for Seattle, that doesn't seem like much of an issue; or rather, trading Johnsson doesn't solve that issue. If the idea is to trade him so you don't lose him for nothing, then why keep two of Dermott, Holl, and Roy? Assuming the Leafs go the 7-3-1 route, only one of them can be protected.

Khaira is also so bad. Wouldn't even want him playing 8 mins a night. Not against adding toughness per se, just needs to be a guy who can play.

the plan for Seattle is to send them a pick to take engvall. None of the defenseman will be touched. Or if they want a defenseman Holl will be left exposed and the dcore becomes

Rielly-Roy
Muzzin-Liligren
Sandin-Dermott

I post a 3rd and a 5th for Johnson and Toronto fans eat me up but I see dozens of these post with the same offer I’m confused

wait they do cause I have always been fine with it. Thats good value for him or Sorensen and a 3rd would also work

Then I don't understand the purpose of trading Johnsson at a low point in his value if you have a plan for Seattle.

Also, two Dmen would have to be exposed. Seattle would have their choice of whichever two of Dermott, Holl, and Roy are exposed should they want a Dman. I'd imagine they wouldn't take Holl as he is the oldest and they are trying to start a franchise.

Yeah that makes sense for both teams of Edmonton can afford the cap difference between the two though they may prefer to use that cap space on someone other then Johnsson.

the purpose is to gain future cap space.

If seattle takes Holl or Engvall or both. Leafs will have the necessary cap space to extend Hyman, Freddie, Lizotte, and Roy and have room for the future. In general leafs for 2 years will be pressured as big names will be needing extensions (Rielly). With the cap staying the same will 2022 Dubas will have to get creative and make room.

In general moving Johnsson for less value is a gamble but at the same time Leafs will need space and this gets them that space while granting them some future picks

I like the Kings trade.

To clarify, the Kings don't move Lizotte because he's expendable, but rather because he's not expansion draft exempt and they'd likely lose him to Seattle if they don't trade him.

They get back an expansion draft exempt prospect and a top six wing. Losing Roy sucks, but Kapanen is enough of an upgrade to make it worthwhile.

Thanks for the knowledge now one question, does Lizotte pk cause if I remember correctly someone mentioned he could and leafs currently are in need of a pking 3c.

i ditched Kharia as I remembered an old friend of Marners becomes a ufa and could come back. And since Lou is gone no over payment a simple fair deal for the Martin.

I don't follow your reasoning here.

According to you, we should trade Lizotte now because we'd lose him in the expansion draft otherwise. That means, by definition, we have 7 other guys we have to, or would prefer to, protect instead. But Kapanen takes Lizotte's place, and presumably now makes another one of our forwards lost to Seattle instead of Lizotte.

I'd rather expose Lizotte and lose him, than lose Lizotte in this trade, another young forward in the expansion draft, and one of the three defensemen we'd be protecting in the expansion draft, all because Kapanen is an upgrade for us over Martin Frk. I don't think that's a close decision at all.

Yes, Lizotte can PK. He's quite good at it in fact. He was 3rd or 4th in PK TOI among Kings forwards.

perfect

Roy and Lizotte both would require protection. Trading Roy allows the Kings to go 7/3/1 instead of 4/4/1, meaning they could protect Kapanen as well as Grundstrom and Wagner.

If Lizotte is left unprotected, he's the no-brainer for Seattle to pick.

Here's what the protection list looks like after this trade:

Forwards: Kopitar, Kempe, Iafallo, Kapanen, Grundstrom, Wagner, Frk

Defense: Doughty, Walker, Clague

honestly next season I see the kings top 2 lines being.

Iofallo-Kopitar-Brown
Kempe-Vilardi-Kapenan
and thats actually pretty solid.

Stuzle or Byfield replace Lizotte as 3c and the team will become serious contenders in the pacific.

I think they take it