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Johnny Hockeys New Home

Created by: vmark
Published: Jul 18, 2020 at 1:33
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 41/186 (22%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $894,166
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: -$802,917
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gaudreau, JohnnyCalgary FlamesNHL-$6,750,000111---70184058
Rittich, DavidCalgary FlamesNHL-$2,750,000111---
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Murray, MattPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$3,750,000111---
Bjugstad, NickPittsburgh PenguinsIR-$4,100,000011---13112
Riikola, JuusoPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$850,000111---36167
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,697,0832445603612
Change$800,000011000
Final$2,497,083 (↑)2446 (↑)61 (↑)3612-16-330

Pittsburgh PenguinsPittsburgh Penguins

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $6,000,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $3,316,250
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Murray, MattPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$3,750,000111---
Bjugstad, NickPittsburgh PenguinsIR-$4,100,000011---13112
Riikola, JuusoPittsburgh PenguinsNHL-$850,000111---36167
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gaudreau, JohnnyCalgary FlamesNHL-$6,750,000111---70184058
Rittich, DavidCalgary FlamesNHL-$2,750,000111---
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,683,7502547673510
Change-$800,0000-1-1000
Final$1,883,750 (↓)2546 (↓)66 (↓)3510163349
Jul 18, 2020 at 1:41
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I'm a pens fan and I'm very high on Matt Murray. This would be highway robbery for the pens. Bjugstad is never playing and riikola is barely an nhl player. The only way I see a package like this working isnif lucic also comes back, and the pens have no cap space to do so.
Jul 18, 2020 at 2:03
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Why would Calgary do this?
Jul 18, 2020 at 2:18
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@Yojimbo They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

@LetsGoPens29 I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.
Jul 18, 2020 at 3:27
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Quoting: vmark
@Yojimbo They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

@LetsGoPens29 I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.


I do believe that Murray will be traded, I just think that it is considerably lopsided for the Pens.
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Jul 18, 2020 at 3:30
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Quoting: Yojimbo
I do believe that Murray will be traded, I just think that it is considerably lopsided for the Pens.


Agreed. If Bjugstad wan’t injured so much and wasn’t a center, and Riikola was proven and was worth a little more, then yes.
Jul 21, 2020 at 11:37
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Quoting: vmark
@Yojimbo They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

@LetsGoPens29 I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.


I just think that the only asset with considerable gaudreau value is Murray. I'd say Murray, poulin/legarre and a pick would be more fair if you could get the cap to work.
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Jul 21, 2020 at 1:28
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@LetsGoPens29 Well Riikola has legit NHL minutes and could slot into a bottom pairing role there no problem. CGY is a win now team so I took that into consideration; they would most likely want legit roster players as opposed to futures.

Bjugstad, while clearly injured a bunch this past season, is also a legit NHL player, even if he is a little bit underwhelming when you look at his numbers. He would also be on an expiring deal. Looking back at this trade I would say we might have to retain a little of salary to move Byoogs at this point, just because he's been so injured, but before that, we could have gotten a 2/3 rd pick for him no problem.

Should have moved him before the season but Rutherford didn't shop him enough. That was a mistake. Granted, I also thought they should have looked into trading Rust before the season, so hindsight is assuredly 20/20.
Jul 28, 2020 at 1:30
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Quoting: vmark
@LetsGoPens29 Well Riikola has legit NHL minutes and could slot into a bottom pairing role there no problem. CGY is a win now team so I took that into consideration; they would most likely want legit roster players as opposed to futures.

Bjugstad, while clearly injured a bunch this past season, is also a legit NHL player, even if he is a little bit underwhelming when you look at his numbers. He would also be on an expiring deal. Looking back at this trade I would say we might have to retain a little of salary to move Byoogs at this point, just because he's been so injured, but before that, we could have gotten a 2/3 rd pick for him no problem.

Should have moved him before the season but Rutherford didn't shop him enough. That was a mistake. Granted, I also thought they should have looked into trading Rust before the season, so hindsight is assuredly 20/20.


I'm high on riikola and I know Bjugstad had been injured but I just don't see the value outside of Murray. Maybe if they added in a second or a lesser prospect I'd be more comfortable with it.
Jul 29, 2020 at 2:37
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@LetsGoPens29 I feel you on that. Like I said it's hard to evaluate Bjugstad at this point in his career, although so far he has played pretty dece when healthy. He's also a very big boy.

But I'd be completely comfortable with them including guys like Simon or Lafferty with NHL experience.

But if you're saying you think they'd want a future over an NHLer I might have to disagree with you there.
 
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