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Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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thread is going exactly as expected. looking forward to it being deleted.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:50 a.m.
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Murray wasn't good this year lmao. And you never responded when someone called them the $30 mill line?


why are you so defensive about it?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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why are you so defensive about it?


Defensive about what?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:51 a.m.
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Defensive about what?


so defensive! Like, that's all you do is get so defensive!
Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
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so defensive! Like, that's all you do is get so defensive!


Yup. Says the person who cried because this ACGM doesnt favor the leafs lmao
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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You're welcome, you seemed to drift off there and ignore anything that wasnt you attempting to make fun of me and my possitions so clearly you needed a refresher.
And there you go again, off on a tangent about me and Dubas and ignoring the fact that I didnt start the thread trying to make Dubas look bad, I simply pointed out that it was a dumb comparison (which it is).
Why is it that people who dont care about logical arguments always say other people are ignoring logic? Like, I would LOVE to hear how this comparison of players is logical at all, or how instead of wanting to talk about how it is or is not logical, you went right to personal attacks and tried to infantize my arguments simply because you dont like what they say?


I wouldn't say "tangent", friend. Just pointing out how you're one of the very few folks around here who can't seem to get along with anyone. But you're right...it's probably not you. Snapping at a bunch of people because someone posted a comparison of groups of players that are being paid $40 mil is a completely logical thing to do.
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 9:57 a.m.
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Yup. Says the person who cried because this ACGM doesnt favor the leafs lmao


wow, the joke really was too complicated for you wasnt it? I was literally showing you how just calling people defensive who disagree with you is a really dumb look and all you did was dig in harder and go for MORE personal insults. Like you arnt even trying to pretend to care about the actual discussion here.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:00 a.m.
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I wouldn't say "tangent", friend. Just pointing out how you're one of the very few folks around here who can't seem to get along with anyone. But you're right...it's probably not you. Snapping at a bunch of people because someone posted a comparison of groups of players that are being paid $40 mil is a completely logical thing to do.


who is snapping at people? All I did was point out that the OP had an ulterior motive and a couple people thought that was a good reason to go after me for some reason? No one actually tried to engage me on WHY comparing these two groups of players was a good or logical thing (which not a single person has done), no one has counteracted any points i raised about it being a bad comparison, etc etc etc.
But sure, if you wanna play softball with the OP where he includes the best player in the world on one side and then says "which money is better spent?" then go to town.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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Even if they do, I think Yamamoto and Bear would fill those shoes monetary wise...


Maybe. Too early to tell. In any case the $40M count is a bit false because Bear is already ahead of Larsson on the depth chart. Also, Edmonton will have the cap space to re-sign all of Nugent-Hopkins, Larsson, Yamamoto and Bear.

And they have Bouchard (ETA: 2020-21) and Broberg (ETA: 2021-22) coming up, both of whom have 3 years at under $1M.
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:03 a.m.
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wow, the joke really was too complicated for you wasnt it? I was literally showing you how just calling people defensive who disagree with you is a really dumb look and all you did was dig in harder and go for MORE personal insults. Like you arnt even trying to pretend to care about the actual discussion here.


No, the "joke" was completely stupid so I ignored it tears of joy And no, im not calling you defensive because you disagree with certain things. Im calling you defensive because you always have something to say if things make the leafs look somewhat bad. And im not caring about the actual discussion? Once again look at the title and look at your 1st comment. And dont bring up what the OP said on other posts, because that isn't the point he is making here. I would bet any money you would get defensive if someone said the leafs have a terrible shade of blue on their jersey tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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No, the "joke" was completely stupid so I ignored it tears of joy And no, im not calling you defensive because you disagree with certain things. Im calling you defensive because you always have something to say if things make the leafs look somewhat bad. And im not caring about the actual discussion? Once again look at the title and look at your 1st comment. And dont bring up what the OP said on other posts, because that isn't the point he is making here. I would bet any money you would get defensive if someone said the leafs have a terrible shade of blue on their jersey tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


yeah, still too complicated for you, i get it.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:11 a.m.
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yeah, still too complicated for you, i get it.


tap out
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:13 a.m.
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yeah, still too complicated for you, i get it.


Not at all. You are relating this GM to previous comments the OP made on a different post. Not hard to understand. So instead of you either 1. ignoring this GM 2. just answering and giving a logical opinion, you go in defensive mode because this GM isn't making the leafs look amazing. If you think the leafs have spent the $40 mill better, thats fine. But you haven't explained why
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Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:14 a.m.
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tap out


No
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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Not at all. You are relating this GM to previous comments the OP made on a different post. Not hard to understand. So instead of you either 1. ignoring this GM 2. just answering and giving a logical opinion, you go in defensive mode because this GM isn't making the leafs look amazing. If you think the leafs have spent the $40 mill better, thats fine. But you haven't explained why


its almost Iike the two posts are related.
And its almost like there is more to comparing contracts than "which 40 million is spent better".
But then you arnt interested in anything like context, we know.
And you keep saying defensive,like is that all you got? Come on, man i already showed you how dumb a look that is. I have literally stated this isnt about making the leafs or dubas look bad with the post. It is about the OP trying to make the gm look bad, which i find hilariously pety.
If literally anyone else had posted it there would have been a different response.
I also love how you are pretending how what the OP did in a previous post is meaningless, yet have repeatedly come at me for previous post stuff.
Pick a lane dude
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.
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its almost Iike the two posts are related.
And its almost like there is more to comparing contracts than "which 40 million is spent better".
But then you arnt interested in anything like context, we know.
And you keep saying defensive,like is that all you got? Come on, man i already showed you how dumb a look that is. I have literally stated this isnt about making the leafs or dubas look bad with the post. It is about the OP trying to make the gm look bad, which i find hilariously pety.
If literally anyone else had posted it there would have been a different response.
I also love how you are pretending how what the OP did in a previous post is meaningless, yet have repeatedly come at me for previous post stuff.
Pick a lane dude


lol you cant be this stupid can you? I go at you with your old posts because you claim you arent defensive, you just reply to posts. So thats when I brought up the $30 mill line post lmao. And yes, his comments are meaningless in this GM because he proposed a question, and left it at that. If you dont want to answer and give your opinion and try and back it up, why even comment then? Thats why I keep saying you are defensive. If you said the leafs spent it better and gave a reason, then its fine. But you didnt
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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lol you cant be this stupid can you? I go at you with your old posts because you claim you arent defensive, you just reply to posts. So thats when I brought up the $30 mill line post lmao. And yes, his comments are meaningless in this GM because he proposed a question, and left it at that. If you dont want to answer and give your opinion and try and back it up, why even comment then? Thats why I keep saying you are defensive. If you said the leafs spent it better and gave a reason, then its fine. But you didnt


No, you keep saying im defensive because you think anyone who disagrees with a post is defensive and literally dont care about the arguments presented.
And if my previous comments count, so do is, so pick a lane.
And you want an answer to the leafs spending 40 mill better? Will that make you happy?
Ok, here it is. Because of the hilarious range of factors going into every single contract presented here, the leafs did in fact spend better because their deals where signed under different, much higher caps qnd include players that actually put up high contract earning numbers before the contracts where signed, and they are forced to include a big name UFA player for some reason while the oilers get a bunch of RFA guys who signed after middling seasons that were all deemed at best meh contracts
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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No, you keep saying im defensive because you think anyone who disagrees with a post is defensive and literally dont care about the arguments presented.
And if my previous comments count, so do is, so pick a lane.
And you want an answer to the leafs spending 40 mill better? Will that make you happy?
Ok, here it is. Because of the hilarious range of factors going into every single contract presented here, the leafs did in fact spend better because their deals where signed under different, much higher caps qnd include players that actually put up high contract earning numbers before the contracts where signed, and they are forced to include a big name UFA player for some reason while the oilers get a bunch of RFA guys who signed after middling seasons that were all deemed at best meh contracts


lmao just stop. How are you going to tell me how I think? I told you why I call you defensive, but yet you still are stuck on why you think so, even though I told you were wrong. I even said its fine if you think the leafs spent their money better tears of joy It took you this long to finally give you opinion and back it up. Good job.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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lmao just stop. How are you going to tell me how I think? I told you why I call you defensive, but yet you still are stuck on why you think so, even though I told you were wrong. I even said its fine if you think the leafs spent their money better tears of joy It took you this long to finally give you opinion and back it up. Good job.


did....did you just give me the "dont tell me what i think!" crap after spending this entire thread telling me how I think? Wow, you are second tier projecting here.
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did....did you just give me the "dont tell me what i think!" crap after spending this entire thread telling me how I think? Wow, you are second tier projecting here.


lmao and how exactly am I doing that?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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lmao and how exactly am I doing that?


are.....are you serious? You have literally told me i am defensive in every single one of your posts. You know, telling me how i feel and think and implying why i am responding? Like, how is this so complicated for you?
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:56 a.m.
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are.....are you serious? You have literally told me i am defensive in every single one of your posts. You know, telling me how i feel and think and implying why i am responding? Like, how is this so complicated for you?


A question was asked and you chose to not answer and instead provided a sarcastic remark.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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A question was asked and you chose to not answer and instead provided a sarcastic remark.


and? You decided you got to tell me how i felt based on that. It's pretty damn funny how you keep catching own ass with these rules you wanna impose on me. And we never even got to the part where you accused me of not getting along with people here when the first thing you did in the post was attack me.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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and? You decided you got to tell me how i felt based on that. It's pretty damn funny how you keep catching own ass with these rules you wanna impose on me. And we never even got to the part where you accused me of not getting along with people here when the first thing you did in the post was attack me.


Really? I accused you of not getting along with people? Show me where... Plus its very easy to tell when people are defensive when they are on every leaf post and always has something to say when there is any sort of criticism.
Jul. 29, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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Really? I accused you of not getting along with people? Show me where... Plus its very easy to tell when people are defensive when they are on every leaf post and always has something to say when there is any sort of criticism.


ah, well that was the other guy. So you get off on that one.
But still, twice alone in this thread you did the exact thing you were accusing me of doing. Either way, admit that you just want excuses to rip on me for your own jollies or, as i originally stated. Pick a Lane
 
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