Sharks accept

Do you think the value is fair for both teams, or should Sharks add a B prospect or something? I wasn't sure what Burakovsky's value would be but a late 1st + late 2nd seems to be in the ballpark.

Bura too important to COL for that return.
I’d prefer not to sign Nemestnikov, move Nuke to 3rd and keep Bura

I get the sentiment. I think Burakovsky has been really good.

That said, if we're intent on keeping Landeskog and Kadri together on a shutdown line, then Burakovsky is a bit of an odd man out in our top 6, as he's hasn't really gelled with Mackinnon and Rantanen on the top line. Upgrading him to Hall basically 1-for-1 while picking up a haul of futures would be a worthwhile move. Though we could certainly sign Hall AND keep Burakovsky as you said, that's good too.

Burakovsky puts up 30+ goals playing with Hall. Put Landy back on the top line and keep Burky at RW, where he tends to perform better. That's literally it for the off season.

Easy peasy, so long as Hall is into it.

I get Hall is an upgrade over Bura but at the same time there is a point where Hall wants so much $$$ that it doesnt justify keeping him over Bura.
Lets say:
Hall wants 8mil x 7yr
Bura wants 4.75mil x 5

Yes Hall is a better player, but at almost double the cost? iddunno. There a dollar amount breaking point somewhere

I agree with you. Bura's shot with Hall's playmaking would be lethal so I'd be inclined to keep Bura. This AGM was based on the idea of keeping the line of Landeskog/Kadri/Nichuskin together though, in which case there's no space for Burakovsky in the top 6 if we add Hall.

I'd rather sign Hall and have him feeding Kadri and Burakovsky, with Nichuskin making an elite defensive 3rd line.

Bednar always tries to separate RML, and they always end up back together. Getting an elite play driver like Hall for the second line is just too perfect, especially when all it takes is a contract. The top six is done for the next couple years.

If Burakovsky is eventually the guy to go because the cap stagnates longer than expected, I'm okay with it. That shouldn't be for awhile. And in the meantime, let him score and increase his value.

That’s b a disgusting top 6

I think we could definitely add more

this is just a terrible idea

and an awful return, trading away a guy who clicks with your team and is a Top 6 forward for a couple futures draft picks. Especially 1 being Tampas first, a super late round pick....NO thank you

Also moving Bura to sign Hall might be the worst move you can think of

I can think of way worse moves than what essentially comes down to a trade of Burakovsky for Hall + 1st + 2nd. That said, there is no reason to move Bura, and certainly not now.

For the record I think we'd be better off keeping Burakovsky even if we signed Hall. Them two on the 2nd line with Kadri could be an awesome fit.

I was simply playing with the idea of what the team could look like if we moved Burakovsky.

If we want to resign Hall and Namestnikov then maybe Donskoi or Compher should be the ones to make way instead of Burakovsky. That way we'd effectively be swapping Compher/Donskoi for Hall + whatever picks Compher/Donskoi can fetch (eg. early 2nd?).

Landeskog ----- Mackinnon ---- Rantanen
Hall ------------------ Kadri --------- Burakovsky
Nichuskin ----- Namestnikov -- Donskoi/Compher
Calvert ---------- Bellemare ------ Kaut

That seems like a decent trade. Maybe a bit much considering this year hes got better linemates than he will likely get again, so his points are inflated for sure.

7 Million for Hall is a bit much.

He's played with Kadri and one of Nichuskin/Donskoi most of the year. In SJ he'd likely get to play at RW with Couture or Hertl at C and one of Meier/Kane/Labanc at LW. That's easily comparable to if not better than what he's played with in Colorado.

I think you'd have to forego Namestnikov and move on from both Compher and Donskoi one way or another (one through xdraft and one via trade). It doesn't need to be next season, but certainly before Makar gets paid. This makes it necessary to keep Jost too (IMO) due to the lower cap hit.

Next year you'd have something this for a bottom six:

Jost, Compher, Nuke
Calvert, PEB, Donskoi/Kaut

The following year it's more like:

Jost, Newhook, Nuke
O'Connor, Bowers, Kaut

That;s how I see it anyway.

Bria is a decent guy and I can see that his value has increased but we need RH shots not a LH who can play RW
And I really think Bura fits with Col and most likely regresses with the Sharks! If I was COL I’d resign him
And not wast your time with Hall

Not really. His underlying numbers in wsh showed with his shot generation he’s a prime candidate to produce More in an elevated role. He’s a top 6 player

I do not like halll much, sure he’s fast and has elite offensive ability but he’s pretty poor defensively and has a history of injuries

True current avs roster roster was one of the highest scoring teams in the league, so what are you building on adding Hall, sacrificing a more rounded game for a minimal bump in scoring even if that bc it was already high.

The idea is to add a top 6 forward not swap one out who ya going to cost double of what bura will for some draft picks

Forgive me for being a little skeptical, the 4 years at 25 points make me feel like this year is an outlier, and at 25 hes not really going to change much

The injuries are not ideal, but it is what it is. He has been healthy this year, which is a pretty big thing.

I don't agree that Hall is poor defensively. No one will mistake him for a Selke candidate, but I don't think he's a liability either. If the team can fill the bottom six with some good two-way forwards (Jost, Kaut, Nuke, and Bowers is a damn good start), then it shouldn't be the biggest concern (IMO).

In the end, Hall is a luxury. The team is set up to go big on a luxury though with the amount of ELCs they have coming and a superstar who is willing to take a discount to win. I say do it if the dollars are reasonable enough (around $8M), keep Bura, and win a ton of games.

He's always had the shot generation stats to suggest that he's a top 6 forward, he just didn't get much of an opportunity in Washington the last couple of years. That's why Sakic (who is big on analytics) paid a 2nd + 3rd for him, because the analytics suggested that he'd score more in a bigger role, which he has done.

I dont think Hall is a good idea, and he wont sign this pie in the sky deal of under 8m for 7 years that Richard keeps on posting.
He will have a terrible contract if you go long term and I hope Avs avoid that.

If he was willing to do a high aav 1-3 year deal, sure thats different, I dont want Hall for 7 years bc its going to age very very poorly