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follow up on my Colorado NYR trade

Created by: Busstop109
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2020
Published: Aug. 18, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Just DON'T BE RUDE in the comments.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
4$2,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$950,000
2$2,500,000
2$1,000,000
1$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
1$9,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$5,000,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Lundqvist, Henrik ($1,275,000 retained)
NYR
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. O'Connor, Logan
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (COL)
2.
COL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (LAK)
  2. 2021 4th round pick (CGY)
  3. 2022 6th round pick (LAK)
3.
COL
  1. Ouellet, Xavier [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 4th round pick (VGK)
4.
COL
  1. 2021 6th round pick (WSH)
  2. 2022 6th round pick (WSH)
5.
COL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Greer, AJ [RFA Rights]
  2. Kamenev, Vladislav [RFA Rights]
6.
COL
  1. Yandle, Keith ($3,175,000 retained)
FLA
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. 2021 5th round pick (COL)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
Logo of the COL
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the COL
2021
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the COL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the COL
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the COL
2022
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$73,879,761$0$3,350,000$7,620,239

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$3,175,000$3,175,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$225,000$225,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3

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Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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Every single trade is either not good, a downgrade on existing, or doesnt make logical sense.

This includes the UFA signings
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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NYR accept
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Every single trade is either not good, a downgrade on existing, or doesnt make logical sense


I understand where your coming from, some of the trades I made were stretches



also look at the description
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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Francouz >> Lundqvist.

Makes no sense for the Avalanche to add a $7M backup when they have a better one for $2M
Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Francouz >> Lundqvist.

Makes no sense for the Avalanche to add a $7M backup when they have a better one for $2M


Lundqvist wants to win and the Avs can make that happen. Also Francouz might not put up the same numbers
Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
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The Kings don't need a goaltender, they're happy with their tandem.

I wouldn't mind picking up Bellemare, but I wouldn't give up anything more than a 4th for him.
Aug. 18, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Busstop109
Lundqvist wants to win and the Avs can make that happen. Also Francouz might not put up the same numbers


Having a $7M backup who's been on the decline since 2015-2016 isn't the way to win. I guarantee the Avs have no interest in this one.
Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Having a $7M backup who's been on the decline since 2015-2016 isn't the way to win. I guarantee the Avs have no interest in this one.


he has 1 year left on his contract it's not that much of a toll on Colorado's cap
Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.
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avs could probably still win even with this roster
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Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
The Kings don't need a goaltender, they're happy with their tandem.

I wouldn't mind picking up Bellemare, but I wouldn't give up anything more than a 4th for him.


They might be but Quick is getting older and worse, and LA can keep Francouz for a year while Peterson develops
Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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COL declines the FLA trade
Aug. 18, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Busstop109
They might be but Quick is getting older and worse, and LA can keep Francouz for a year while Peterson develops


Quick is not getting worse. He just played his best stretch of hockey in several years over the past month before the season was suspended. His poor numbers have more to do with the team in front of him than his own play. The Kings are reportedly even interested in giving up an asset to ensure that Seattle doesn't take Quick in the expansion draft. You don't do that if you're ready to move on from him.

LA Kings: Don’t expect Jonathan Quick to go to Seattle
Aug. 18, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: DaBus
COL declines the FLA trade


Well that's an understatment.

That trade is horrible.
Aug. 18, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.
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Heck no from the avs on every trade, this is a train wreck
Aug. 18, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.
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Can’t get over how bad you made the avs with these moves, top to bottom a collection of terrible moves
Aug. 18, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.
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So much wrong here.
Avs don’t need Lundqvist or his contract. By trading Francouz and acquiring Lundqvist you make it so the Avs have to chase a veteran goalie to be compliant for the expansion draft. Girard is light years better than Yandle, then you turn around and sign Barrie. How did Barrie do not getting prime PP time in TOR, you don’t think they are going to put Makar on the 2nd unit do you? You traded Cole then still blocked Byram by acquiring Barrie and Yandle. Would you really give a $9M (even for 1 yr) contract to Hall after seeing what he has done in the playoffs?

Literally the Avs would be significantly better by just signing their own guys and going chalk.
Aug. 19, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Can’t get over how bad you made the avs with these moves, top to bottom a collection of terrible moves


whats Girard actual value? would a guy like Vrana get it done? if Girard is off limits whats Graves value
Aug. 19, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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whats Girard actual value? would a guy like Vrana get it done? if Girard is off limits whats Graves value


Girard is a top pairing dman on a steal of a contract extension at 5m for the next 7 years, Vrana doesn’t even get the convo started, he’s a core member for the avs for the next decade. Not over exaggerating at how good of a dman he is.

Graves is solid but a 2nd line winger of similar age and rfa control is what avs would ask for to part with him.
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Aug. 19, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Girard is a top pairing dman on a steal of a contract extension at 5m for the next 7 years, Vrana doesn’t even get the convo started, he’s a core member for the avs for the next decade. Not over exaggerating at how good of a dman he is.

Graves is solid but a 2nd line winger of similar age and rfa control is what avs would ask for to part with him.


Girard is really good i just wasn't sure his actual value. makes sense that hes bascially an untouchable..
Aug. 19, 2020 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Girard is really good i just wasn't sure his actual value. makes sense that hes bascially an untouchable..


He’s basically untouchable. Him makar and byram will be the corner stones of the avs d core for a decade,
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Aug. 19, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
He’s basically untouchable. Him makar and byram will be the corner stones of the avs d core for a decade,


Timmons could become a really solid RHD making that top 4 pretty lethal
Aug. 19, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
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Timmons could become a really solid RHD making that top 4 pretty lethal


I think He will be as well, he had solid season in the ahl and finally healthy, their d is pretty set going forward even if I someone gets poached in expansion, they could lose graves and it’s not big deal
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