I'd have very litte confidence in Murray in goal.

He is poor

He needs a change of scenery, you are not .920+ stanley cup level goalie and then forget how to do it.. too many factors against him in pittsburgh.

This was...pretty aggressive...

So, Carolina is pretty much screwed if Dougie doesn't resign...you know that, right?

The Canes also scored 3.26 gpg (That's without Dougie for 20 games). The Leafs, with their vaunted offense, scored 3.4 gpg. Not a huge difference.
On the other end, the Canes allowed 2.83 gpg, whereas the Leafs allowed 3.24. One of these teams was playing with Reimer and Marazek.

Why on earth would Carolina sacrifice their D (In a major way, by the way), to change the way that they play?

It's also funny that you're trading Kerfoot, a 3C, for a guy who you think has very little value, then you're firing him in as your starter. You get why that's foolish, right?

They are not changing the way they play. They are getting better while getting much better goaltending (yes, Andersen is levels better than both Mrazek and Reimer combined). They would re-sign Dougie.. he loves it there and they love him there. No reason to not sign him.

Leafs would sacrifice their F in a major way too in that deal, you dont look at that either. Its sacrifice for sacrifice so both teams get better overall. Simple..

Murray needs a change of scenery, lost his job in Pittsburgh and hates it there. Those guys dont have starter value even though they would later play starter role. But I think change of scenery would help him get back into form he was in couple years back. Thats why I traded for him. And no, Murrays value is not Kapanen++++ on the market.. thats foolish.

I think we've all seen what happens when you sacrifice defence for offense though, right?

Aho, Teuvo and Svech make up a pretty great, young offensive core, then you add Necas who looks to be heading in the right direction, plus a likely bounce back from Trochek, if he can stay healthy. I'm not sure why I'd want to change that, especially when my D-core is as solid as it is?

As for Murray, I'm not saying he's worth Kapanen++++. He's definitely worth more than a 3C though.

Carolina aren't moving Trocheck. Sure, he's not had the end product, but his ability to create chances in his 16 games as a Cane have been amazing. Pesce for Nylander works 1 for 1. Andersen and Kapanen for Trocheck and a 2nd is no. Carolina will not move someone who was a long time target that they acquired at the deadline.

For the best goalie they probably ever had in their franchise history I think they would sacrifice a 2nd liner..

Andersen was worse this year than Reimer. No thanks

Andersen is levels better than Reimer. But if Reimer is enough for you (lol), so be it!

Yes, the goalie who was significantly worse this year is a better goalie!

Andersen on Carolina is .930+ goalie. Compare what Reimer has in front of him and what Andersen has in front of him.

Except that he hasn’t been a .either of those since 16-17. Literally his save percentage has dropped every year since to this year when he was a sub .900.

If Canes go for Andersen I would puke, Id much rather trade for Murray, or just draft Askarov haha

Why would you puke lol?

Dont want him on the Canes haha

Id rather have another Tbay boy

I mean.. he is an awesome goalie who would be like .930 on Canes. I dont get it lol

He wouldn't though. Toronto's defence this year was analytically better than Carolina's. That is the Joel Edmundson affect. Andersen actually had a better D core in front of him, because Carolina's blueline was so injured.

He would though. Toronto missed Rielly and Muzzin for chunks of year and played rookies in top-4 regularly.. Toronto also had D core that was really injured the whole year..

Carolinas defense is much better than Torontos.. however I do agree that Andersen had a down year compared to being a really consistent .915-.920 goalie every single year.

Carolina's defence at the end of the season was Slavin and 5 pylons.

Didnt they like acquire Vatanen, Skjei and guys like that at the deadline to boost their blueline even more? Was it that bad?

Vatanen, Hamilton, and Pesce were all on IR. Skjei was shakey, TvR was not himself, Fleury started to turn a corner, but wasn't great. Jake Gardiner on a down year was our 2nd best D man by some distance

Wow that’s a big splash. Would think easily no from Carolina. They don’t really need to make such a big move.

I dunno, they didn't even make it out of the first round and even the leafs took the bruins to 7. They will never win build like this and need to competly re arange how the team is built

I’d agree with that statement about the leafs but Carolina is only tweeks away from having a team capable of deep run.

Nope, they cant even make it past the first round. Too flawed. Need grit and leadership