I think the Jake Allen trade will be the template for the Andersen trade. In other words, you probably won't get much for a cap dump.

Kuemper vs Andersen is probably a net zero gain (you save 500k.. big deal)
Perry is due for decline/pay cut, but 1.5mil is too little.

At the end of the day, Kuemper + Perry + Cernak isnt enough of an upgrade over Andersen + Johnsson + Barrie, to put the Leafs over the top

Allen was likely viewed as a rental backup (1B at best) though. I would assume any team grabbing Andersen would be acquiring him as their No. 1 with plans to re-sign.

2nd isn't that much of a stretch from a 3rd.

Wings pass, we aren't giving up assets for guys that don't help our rebuild, keep trying

Are the Leafs with a flat cap able to hit 3 homeruns this summer though? They likely improve in G, they definitely improve on D, and add another net-front/instigator presence they lack.

There likely isn't a better current starter available through trade than Kuemper. UFAs - Lehner and Markstrom will be more than $5M.

I like all the moves but kuemper isn't the right target he benefits from a strong defensive structure and he is the same age as Fred

Kuemper is probably going to cost you more for this reason. If Carolina is willing to give up a second for Freddy they probably give up more Kuemper. You probably end up in a bit of a bidding war.

Wings don't have interest in paying a fair price for Johnsson, they'd take him if Leafs want to give him away tho

They probably do, but Johnsson isn't 37 years old. He's the same age as Bertuzzi and Mantha.

You are missing the larger point here though.
Compare the pieces in vs the pieces moved out.
The net gain (if any) doesnt make the difference between the Leafs losing first rd or them making the Eastern Conf. final...

I think when acquisition costs and salary are factored in, Kuemper is pretty high on the list. Even if he puts up a .915 SV% he'll still be a solid No. 1 here.

That's where I'm hoping Dundon likes the $1M price tag for Freddy.

In your opinion.

I doubt Nylander is moving, so I really don't see the Leafs landing a Norris candidate.

Cernak can be miles better than anyone that rielly has played with, and I have faith Dermott can progress into a solid Top 4.

Leafs are a young team, most of their growth will come from individuals progressing, not from trades or signing 30 years olds.

But is it worth only one extra year before re uping

As long as the cost to acquire him wasn't crazy, getting through expansion and giving the team the extra year to see what they have in Campbell will be pretty valuable.

Legit UFA options will be too pricey IMO, Kuemper is way better option than a stopgap like Greiss or Khudobin, so that leaves Murray and Korpisalo. Both could cost more than Kuemper, and neither are locks to be any better. Murray is already injury-prone, inconsistent and has 2 cups on his resume, so could be asking for big $$ already. Korpisalo has limited track record of being a No. 1, and coming from CLB really helps pad the stats (even more than Kuemper in Ari IMO).

Dundon net worth is estimated to be 1 billion+ so saving 4M isn't that buig of a deal

Which doesn't help the rebuild, you can keep him for the 3rd

are you kidding me on that arizona trade? that might, MIGHT get you raanta. Not even close for keumper

No doubt, but I get the impression he doesn't love burning through $$.

More of a comment on the team as a whole not being profitable, not so much the owners net worth.

Not a knock on the team, majority of NHL smaller market teams struggle to make $$.

I'm not kidding you. I clearly said in my description it's not easy to gauge Keumper's trade value.

I don't think any goalies will be traded for super high values this off-season considering 10+ are or could be available with 8ish spots to fill.

Considering Hill will be required to pass through waivers next season, it would seem a decision will need to made in dessert.

Well depends how you look at it. Considering that 3rd rounder has about a 25-30% chance to make the NHL (less of a chance to be a 40 pt middle 6 player).

But to each their own.

So then, hear me out... the coyotes just dont trade keumper? raanta had a 2.63 and a .921... adin hill had a 2.63 and a .918... wouldnt they just move raanta out and replace him with hill? You arent getting a vezina caliber goalie for a mid 2nd a mid 4th and a 4th liner.

I would think $$ comes into play at some point in the conversation in who to keep Raanta owed $4M in real dollars, keumper owed $9M.

Considering the NHL as a whole will struggle for the foreseeable future.

But, agreed from a purely hockey viewpoint, it make more sense to move Raanta.

I'll still keep it in a deep draft, lots of choices here in rounds 2 and 3

yeah that makes sense