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Created by: MGK
Team: 2020-21 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 5, 2020
Published: Sep. 5, 2020
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Lehner's ask just went up.
It's probably time to move on from Marchessault, no matter what he does in the WCF.
Krebs gets a 9 game audition, unless Dugan/Elvenes win the spot in camp.
Schmidt moves back to his natural side.
6 Cs in the lineup so the center depth remains strong.
Hague goes up and down from Henderson until they free a spot on D.
MAF is definitely gone and it killed me to see him angry on the bench in game 7. :(
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,500,000
2$730,000
1$780,000
1$720,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,000,000
6$7,500,000
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Cousins, Nick [RFA Rights]
2.
VGK
  1. 2021 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
conditional 2nd
3.
VGK
  1. Hutton, Carter
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
Additional Details:
Conditional 2nd if MAF plays less than 40 games in 21-22

MAF has a 10 team NTC but wants a chance to be a starter again.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,638,272$285,772$850,000-$138,272
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$894,167$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$720,000$720,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
G
UFA - 5
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$725,000$725,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Sep. 5, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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I'd probably it.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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Try somewhere else for Marchessault, I pass.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.
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Sabres pass. They aren't looking for a goalie to compete for the starting job. Let alone do they want to give up an asset and take on a bad contract to do so
Sep. 5, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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Buffalo would be much more interested in Marchessault. They want nothing to do with Fleury or his contract.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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Buffalo would be much more interested in Marchessault. They want nothing to do with Fleury or his contract.


Marchessault won't waive for Buffalo.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:02 p.m.
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Marchessault won't waive for Buffalo.


People use that as a blanket statement for anyone who has a no trade clause. However, we see players waive them to go to Buffalo at least once every couple years. Simmonds and Skinner both did.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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I'd probably it.


I wouldn't it
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Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Tjm220
People use that as a blanket statement for anyone who has a no trade clause. However, we see players waive them to go to Buffalo at least once every couple years. Simmonds and Skinner both did.


I can guarantee you that Marchessault has Buffalo on his NT list and will not waive, under any circumstances to go from Las Vegas to Buffalo.
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Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.
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the 1st alone is probably good for March... but the bruins probably dont take, would rather a more proven RW
Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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I can guarantee you that Marchessault has Buffalo on his NT list and will not waive, under any circumstances to go from Las Vegas to Buffalo.


You act as if you have spoken to him personally. No one believed Robyn Regehr would have waved his no trade clause to go to Buffalo either. But he did, and he loved his time playing here. Believe it or not Buffalo is really only a couple moves (One of them being acquiring him) from being a legitimate playoff team. The economic landscape forcing teams to shift players around could very well mean Buffalo gets a significant player for much less than his value. If players who have no trade clauses refuse to be moved then they have to start trading guys who don’t have them.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: MGK
I can guarantee you that Marchessault has Buffalo on his NT list and will not waive, under any circumstances to go from Las Vegas to Buffalo.


Bet
Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:35 p.m.
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
Bet


OK I'll change my username to ImAnIdiotBuffaloSabresGotMarchessault if Marchessault gets traded, directly, from Vegas to Buffalo in the next 2 years. Bookmark this, I guess.

Obviously doesn't count if Marchessault goes to another team first though.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.
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the 1st alone is probably good for March... but the bruins probably dont take, would rather a more proven RW


Which RWs that might be available are more proven than a guy who has almost a point per game in the playoffs the past 3 years?
Sep. 5, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.
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Curious as to why we have to move Marshy?
Sep. 5, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.
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Curious as to why we have to move Marshy?


Don't have to move anyone except Flower. And even then...
Sep. 5, 2020 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
I wouldn't it


Big improvement. Possible bounce back and can easily be shopped in the next offseason. Hutton is not good.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.
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Quoting: MGK
Which RWs that might be available are more proven than a guy who has almost a point per game in the playoffs the past 3 years?


One that is better than .75 PPG in the regular season and itsnt already gonna be 30 lol

I mean just to name an easy one: Tyler Toffoli ALSO is about .75 PPG in the regular season, but is 28 and they can sign him without giving ANYTHING up
Sep. 5, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
One that is better than .75 PPG in the regular season and itsnt already gonna be 30 lol

I mean just to name an easy one: Tyler Toffoli ALSO is about .75 PPG in the regular season, but is 28 and they can sign him without giving ANYTHING up


Toffoli is 'proven'? I mean the guy was barely a core player for any Kings cup runs where he had 21 points in 47 games as a King, and he's going to be overpaid for having 6 goals in 10 games during a shortened season...

If the Bruins want to overpay 6.5mx6 for Toffoli, then yikes for them. He's only scored 25 or more once in his career.
Sep. 5, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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Big improvement. Possible bounce back and can easily be shopped in the next offseason. Hutton is not good.


Neither is your spelling or sense of sarcasm
Sep. 5, 2020 at 10:32 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 5, 2020 at 11:36 p.m.
From my perspective, Buffalo would be willing to take on Fleury's contract (and maybe even retain a little on Hutton), but I'd want something else of value in return from Vegas.

Flower is great, but at thins point he's a past-his-prime 35 year old who is vastly operpaid for his current production. You guys know this, that's why you're trying to trade him to bring back Lehner. Ullmark was better this year, so Fleury would be coming in as our 1B as best.

The Sabres can afford his contract but putting $7 mil into a backup goalie position would prevent us from making other trades or signing free agents to otherwise help our team, so obviously not the preferred option. Not to mention that his contract stems into 2022 when we'll need to re-sign Dahlin and Jokiharju. That's why I wouldn't take this offer as-is (even before the draft pick). I hope that makes sense.

My counter: Fleury and Tuch for Hutton ($750k retained), Tage Thompson, and a 2020 4th.
Tuch fills a big top 6 RW hole for the Sabres, and is the incentive for us to take on Flower's cap hit. Obviously it'll be hard to deal Tuch after how he's played in the playoffs, but Vegas has proven this season that they are plenty effective without him in the top 6.
Thompson should eventually be able to slide into the 3RW spot that Tuch spent the bulk of the year in, and is cost controlled. Thompson was a very raw prospect and was probably called up before he should have in Buffalo, but he has tons of talent and I'm fairly confident can be a solid secondary scoring line contributor as early as next season.
I threw in the retained money on Hutton and the draft pick with the intention of accounting for Tuch's jump in value this postseason.

I think that's a framework that can work for both teams, but let me know what you guys think!
Sep. 6, 2020 at 1:04 a.m.
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Neither is your spelling or sense of sarcasm


You said "I wouldn't it" hop off on my spellingtears of joy
Sep. 6, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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Toffoli is 'proven'? I mean the guy was barely a core player for any Kings cup runs where he had 21 points in 47 games as a King, and he's going to be overpaid for having 6 goals in 10 games during a shortened season...

If the Bruins want to overpay 6.5mx6 for Toffoli, then yikes for them. He's only scored 25 or more once in his career.


6 Goals in 10 games in good... do you watch hockey or are you just trying to argue with people lol
Sep. 6, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
6 Goals in 10 games in good... do you watch hockey or are you just trying to argue with people lol


Weird how I argue with people that make no sense...He's a sniper playing with Pettersson on the PP. Works for Vancouver, but go ask Kings fans if Toffoli is a consistent 25 goal scorer.

Their last 4 regular seasons: Toffoli: .54 points per game Marchessault .77 points per game. Which player is 'proven' again?
Sep. 6, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.
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Weird how I argue with people that make no sense...He's a sniper playing with Pettersson on the PP. Works for Vancouver, but go ask Kings fans if Toffoli is a consistent 25 goal scorer.

Their last 4 regular seasons: Toffoli: .54 points per game Marchessault .77 points per game. Which player is 'proven' again?


Ok id rather sign a top 6 winger than trade for one lol
 
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