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Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 5, 2020
Published: Sep. 6, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$5,250,000
7$6,250,000
7$4,500,000
2$950,000
2$850,000
2$1,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,000,000
4$2,500,000
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. Gallagher, Brendan ($1,875,000 retained)
  2. Petry, Jeff ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Condition: Gallagher signs extension
2.
MTL
  1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
    Rights to Max Domi
    3.
    4.
    MTL
    1. 2020 1st round pick (NSH)
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (NJD)
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
    4. 2022 3rd round pick (NSH)
    NSH
    1. Armia, Joel
    2. Tatar, Tomas
    Additional Details:
    Condition: Both players sign extensions
    5.
    TBL
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi
    2. Ylönen, Jesse
    3. 2022 3rd round pick (NSH)
    6.
    COL
    1. Danault, Phillip
    2. Fleury, Cale
    Additional Details:
    Rights to Cole Caufield
    Rights to Jesse Puljujarvi
    Rights to Jayden Struble
    Rights to Mattias Norlinder
    7.
    MTL
    1. 2022 7th round pick (DET)
    DET
    1. Alzner, Karl
    2. Byron, Paul
    3. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (NSH)
    5. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
    Retained Salary Transactions
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    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    23$81,500,000$77,172,143$0$6,987,500$4,327,857
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    C
    UFA - 2
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 6
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    C
    UFA - 1
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    C, RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $700,000$700,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,350,000$4,350,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
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    UFA - 2

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    Sep. 6, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.
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    Maybe next time....
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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    Don't want to overpay broken down Gallagher. We want the big buck Alex Tuch!

    Besides Gallagher isn't a need with Stone battling in the dirty areas.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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    Touch is NOT worth that much.

    Domi trade value seems ok as long as there is a condition attached to the 2nd in that it upgrades to a first if Anderson misses more than 30 games.

    That is an insane package to the Avs, who do you think we are getting back McKinnon + Landiskog?

    The Tampa and Nashville packages are ok but I don't think Detroit wants that package but I could be wrong.
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    Sep. 6, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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    Lmao I would never do the Colorado trade
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    Sep. 6, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: MGK
    Don't want to overpay broken down Gallagher. We want the big buck Alex Tuch!

    Besides Gallagher isn't a need with Stone battling in the dirty areas.


    You can never have too many guys battling in the dirty areas. And you probably wouldn't have to overpay since Nevada is a no-income tax state. You can probably sign him south of 6 mill. Also, although I didn't include it in the "conditions" you'll probably be able to resign Petry at a discount also if you give him a fair term.

    Gallagher's past significant injuries are 2 brakes/fractures to his hand/wrist from both times getting hit by slapshots.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Touch is NOT worth that much.

    Domi trade value seems ok as long as there is a condition attached to the 2nd in that it upgrades to a first if Anderson misses more than 30 games.

    That is an insane package to the Avs, who do you think we are getting back McKinnon + Landiskog?

    The Tampa and Nashville packages are ok but I don't think Detroit wants that package but I could be wrong.


    Maybe, maybe not. Let's see what Avs fans think about it. I don't think CBJ will agree to that condition.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
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    Maybe, maybe not. Let's see what Avs fans think about it. I don't think CBJ will agree to that condition.


    Then I would just keep Domi cause if they move him for Anderson it just too much of a risk for the Habs.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
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    Maybe, maybe not. Let's see what Avs fans think about it. I don't think CBJ will agree to that condition.


    Your moving 6 players to the Avs for 3 and of those 6 you have an 2 elite scoring winger prospects (Puljujarvi and Caufield) 2 elite puck moving top 4 LHD prospects (Norlinder and Struble) a top 4 NHL near ready RHD prospect (Fleury) and one of the top 10 defensive centers in the league (Danault) for 1 scoring winger (Burakovski) 1 top 2 LHD prospect who is slightly better than Norlinder but the gap is closing and B prospect (Nichushkin). I would rather keep everyone and see how Norlinder and Struble progress this year and go from there.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Your moving 6 players to the Avs for 3 and of those 6 you have an 2 elite scoring winger prospects (Puljujarvi and Caufield) 2 elite puck moving top 4 LHD prospects (Norlinder and Struble) a top 4 NHL near ready RHD prospect (Fleury) and one of the top 10 defensive centers in the league (Danault) for 1 scoring winger (Burakovski) 1 top 2 LHD prospect who is slightly better than Norlinder but the gap is closing and B prospect (Nichushkin). I would rather keep everyone and see how Norlinder and Struble progress this year and go from there.


    I absolutely agree on most points you made. I disagree that Norlinder is closing in on Byrem though. Norlinder is definetly a steal prospect for us and I'm actually proud of the organization for plucking him. The thing is this trade I would only do it if the other trades for Anderson, Killorn etc. etc. actually happened. This is only my opinion but Hall, Tuch, Anderson, Burakovski and Killorn can provide plenty of scoring already, so I don't feel as bad losing Caufield or Puljujarvi up front and mostly I know what I'm getting from Burakovski and Nichushkin (he shouldn't be labeled as a prospect).. There's a good chance Cauufield will tear it up no doubt but I'd be avoiding headaches by locking down all those players and instead of figuring out on the fly what to do with all those prospects I'm giving up.

    In the end I'm trying to put a team together that can compete and withstand the playoff grind. Again only my opinion but if I can assemble this team, I'll give up all those prospects, and I also want to point out that I barely gave away any draft picks, which will help restock the cupboard quickly.
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    Sep. 6, 2020 at 6:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    I absolutely agree on most points you made. I disagree that Norlinder is closing in on Byrem though. Norlinder is definetly a steal prospect for us and I'm actually proud of the organization for plucking him. The thing is this trade I would only do it if the other trades for Anderson, Killorn etc. etc. actually happened. This is only my opinion but Hall, Tuch, Anderson, Burakovski and Killorn can provide plenty of scoring already, so I don't feel as bad losing Caufield or Puljujarvi up front and mostly I know what I'm getting from Burakovski and Nichushkin (he shouldn't be labeled as a prospect).. There's a good chance Cauufield will tear it up no doubt but I'd be avoiding headaches by locking down all those players and instead of figuring out on the fly what to do with all those prospects I'm giving up.

    In the end I'm trying to put a team together that can compete and withstand the playoff grind. Again only my opinion but if I can assemble this team, I'll give up all those prospects, and I also want to point out that I barely gave away any draft picks, which will help restock the cupboard quickly.


    I get what your saying but my issue really lies in why do we need Byram, Burakovski and Nichushkin especially at that price. Why not just extend Tatar and Gallager? Then you don't have to give up the futures. You can also still trade Danault if you want for other picks/prospects.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.
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    I get what your saying but my issue really lies in why do we need Byram, Burakovski and Nichushkin especially at that price. Why not just extend Tatar and Gallager? Then you don't have to give up the futures. You can also still trade Danault if you want for other picks/prospects.


    You know Byrem is ranked in the top 5 prospect list in the entire league right? he's in Makar Hughes Heiskenen stratosphere. As for Tatar and Gally they're small and older. Apart from Killorn everyone in the top 9 is 25 yrs old or younger, I'd love to have these guys grow together along with Romanov, Byrem, Bouchard, Juulsen and Primeau. This team is built to to handle the playoff grind, all big boys apart from Zukes. Top heavy man. The Bruins wouldn't dare pull their shenanigans with us.

    Avs are super high on Byrem and I just don't see them giving him up for much less than what I offered, and even at that. Ok check it out I'm make that trade by it's self on ACGM and watch how quickly Avs fans will crap on it.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    You know Byrem is ranked in the top 5 prospect list in the entire league right? he's in Makar Hughes Heiskenen stratosphere. As for Tatar and Gally they're small and older. Apart from Killorn everyone in the top 9 is 25 yrs old or younger, I'd love to have these guys grow together along with Romanov, Byrem, Bouchard, Juulsen and Primeau. This team is built to to handle the playoff grind, all big boys apart from Zukes. Top heavy man. The Bruins wouldn't dare pull their shenanigans with us.

    Avs are super high on Byrem and I just don't see them giving him up for much less than what I offered, and even at that. Ok check it out I'm make that trade by it's self on ACGM and watch how quickly Avs fans will crap on it.


    Yes Byram is ranked 4th and Romanov is ranked 5th so again we don't need Byram
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Yes Byram is ranked 4th and Romanov is ranked 5th so again we don't need Byram


    What's the link to that ranking?
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.
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    What's the link to that ranking?


    Hang on I will find it
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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    What's the link to that ranking?


    Sorry Byram was ranked 3rd and Romanov 5th here is the link story is from earlier this season

    https://www.tsn.ca/russian-players-dominate-top-spots-in-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1424251
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 9:15 p.m.
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    Sorry Byram was ranked 3rd and Romanov 5th here is the link story is from earlier this season

    https://www.tsn.ca/russian-players-dominate-top-spots-in-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1424251


    See i told you, not 1 person thought it was a fair trade. By all means I believe on paper I'm overpaying but it's all about the context and supply and demand.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Sorry Byram was ranked 3rd and Romanov 5th here is the link story is from earlier this season

    https://www.tsn.ca/russian-players-dominate-top-spots-in-tsn-s-ranking-of-nhl-affiliated-prospects-1.1424251


    That’s from January And from button
    Draft Prospect lists change all the time. Recent ones have romonav Jn the 40s begins Timmins as drafted ranked prospects

    But byram is a staple at the top 5 on any list that you find right now
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 10:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    That’s from January And from button
    Draft Prospect lists change all the time. Recent ones have romonav Jn the 40s begins Timmins as drafted ranked prospects

    But byram is a staple at the top 5 on any list that you find right now


    Where is your link?

    Yeah I mean what does Button know anyway he was only a GM in the NHL. So you know he is unreliable.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 10:49 p.m.
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    Where is your link?

    Yeah I mean what does Button know anyway he was only a GM in the NHL. So you know he is unreliable.


    It’s from the athletic, do you have an account
    https://theathletic.com/1880791/2020/07/06/wheeler-the-top-50-drafted-nhl-prospects-ranking-2020-edition/
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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    How about this one from sports illustrated in March Byram doesn't make the list but Romanov comes in at 5th. Oh bit I suppose SI doesn't know anything about NHL prospect evaluat8on either right.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.si.com/hockey/.amp/news/future-watch-2020-the-nhls-top-10-rising-prospects
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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    That's convenient the only list to support your claim comes from a paid site.
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Are you kidding me your article is written by a journalist! A guy literally paid to write his opinions and create controversy and conversation. How can you actually believe the guy has more insight into hockey than a former GM who was actually paid to evaluate potential prospects and players!. Like seriously the guy has never worked in an organization even as a scout! Everything in his article is based off his opinions not an evaluation from an actual hockey mind
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 11:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    That's convenient the only list to support your claim comes from a paid site.


    Google the list if you don’t believe me
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.
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    Are you kidding me your article is written by a journalist! A guy literally paid to write his opinions and create controversy and conversation. How can you actually believe the guy has more insight into hockey than a former GM who was actually paid to evaluate potential prospects and players!. Like seriously the guy has never worked in an organization even as a scout! Everything in his article is based off his opinions not an evaluation from an actual hockey mind


    He’s considered one of leaders in prospect analysis, you know his paid profession.

    are you throwing a hissy fit?
    Sep. 6, 2020 at 11:27 p.m.
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    How about this one from sports illustrated in March Byram doesn't make the list but Romanov comes in at 5th. Oh bit I suppose SI doesn't know anything about NHL prospect evaluat8on either right.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.si.com/hockey/.amp/news/future-watch-2020-the-nhls-top-10-rising-prospects[/quote]

    That’s a list of 10 rising prospects not a ranked list...you didn’t read it did you
     
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