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Another Manson trade

Created by: BCAPP
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 12, 2020
Published: Sep. 12, 2020
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1$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
1$700,000
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Trades
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
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I hate trading Lily. He is so much younger than people realize and I fear this bites us in the behind
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Sep. 12, 2020 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
neither was Roman Polak. & when he played with Rielly against Washington, they shut Ovechkin down pretty well and Polak was a pain in the ass to Ovechkin. That's exactly what the Leafs need


It worked for a series. Great. There is a reason he hasn't stuck in such a situation
Sep. 12, 2020 at 7:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Salzy
And that’s fair as well, everyone will have different evaluations on every player it’s the nature of sports

Some are massive overpays I’m sure those drive you nuts as well. Some are massive underpays and it’s been going on 2 years of this for Ducks fans ahah


Quoting: Jamiepo
I don’t consider Lilly a B prospect. I also don’t consider manson to be good or valuable. I wouldn’t trade Lilly for zaitsev either.

Regardless of what you think Manson is worth and what Lilly is we both have two different opinions.

Sorry you have to see so many Manson trades. They drive me nuts too.


Quoting: Salzy
Never said you need to like Manson, he has more value than Liljegren and it isn’t close though. You’re opinion is completely valid and you’re entitled to it

But Liljegren is a B prospect. Manson is at worst a second pair guy that can play against the other teams top line night in and night out, that has more value than a B prospect. I even said in the first post you replied to TOR should keep Lily, but his value is around Liljegren and a second


Just gotta say I always like people disagreeing respectfully. We all have the right to differing opinions.
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Sep. 12, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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Quoting: BCAPP
As more and more time has gone on I've trusted pronman less and less. He seems to miss as often as he hits

Thanks for the info but I think it's an odd comment. His ceiling with his skill set is clearly higher. Whether he is likely to reach higher though is a different question


Don't necessarily disagree. Just figured I'd provide the most up to date information from a guy who evaluates prospects for a living.
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Sep. 12, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Leaf fans....

Manson is the worst player in the league. Liljegren is an A+ prospect. Kerfoot and Johnsson have high values. It’s the same thing on every leaf AGM.

Manson for Liljegren and a 2nd is the value. Leaf fans just want to downplay every player not wearing a leaf. It’s actually insufferable.
 
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