HARD pass by the Hawks

Definitely shouldn't do that EDM trade, and Pesce likely costs a little more. Think the conversation for Pesce starts with Nylander, picks to be added as needed.

Welcome here but this is awful for Vegas. No chance

Dude if you read the description you would have noticed that I said it doesn't have to be the Hawks that make that trade. It could be any team in the league. I think Johnsson is worth a 3rd+okay prospect. It doesn't have to be Chicago that offers that up, it literally could be any team, it's just a pure cap space move by Toronto. Also if you think Johnsson is worth anything less then that I'm not sure what to tell you because he was still on pace for 40+ points this year even though he had an injury plus he has a 20 goal season under his belt.

Tuch had a difficult season, but he did bounce back in the playoffs. Anyways, the reason I would think Vegas makes this trade is purely for cap reason's. I heard Dregger talking about how Vegas could also be a landing spot for Pietragelo if he doesn't re-sign with St. Louis. I mean another option for the leafs could be to completely ignore the Tuch and Pesce trades and go after Pietrangelo themselves. But again this is a pure cap space move for Vegas because you can't really have players making almost 5 million dollars playing in your bottom 6, especially in a flat cap world.

I understand it only takes 1 sucker to get a trade AND that Dubas fleeced JR, but that can't be the expectation for every trade. AJ was literally the 4th most assisted player in the ENTIRE NHL. He plays 86% of his minutes with Matthews and Nylander. He's by the purest of defenitions...a cap dump.

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To me that sounds very similar to a Hall for Larsson trade that's the problem. Think about it, Hall was an elite forward at the time and Larsson was a decent top 4 defensive defenceman. I know this may not be popular opinion but Nylander is an elite forward, or at least an above average one. Pesce is a great defensive guy, but I just think he is a little overrated, not by a lot, but just a tad because he is a right shot defenceman. I mean I wouldn't give up Nylander for Pesce because to me it seems like Elite for maybe a little above average, which is just to close to Hall for Larsson imo.

Also, I mean the leafs wouldn't have to go for Pesce. Another option I had in mind was to just ignore the Tuch and Pesce trades and just go out and get Pietrangelo. We would have the cap to do it.

If we are moving on from someone cap wise it’ll be Stastny, not the 24 year old locked up under 5 for the next 6 years. Plus the return isn’t great

I agree, but Pesce isn't a guy that Carolina needs to move, they're perfectly content keeping him on the roster. The deal would be have to be significantly in Carolina'as favor for them to consider it, hence why the conversation starts with Nylander.

Ya but then who becomes your 2C? Smtih, Marchessault and Tuch are all wingers. Even if you think Glass is ready for that role, that still bumps Tuch down to the bottom 6. I mean if you want to re-sign a guy like Lehner or target another big name, your gonna have to trade one of your right wingers.

If that's the case I think the leafs pass. I would rather trade Nylander for Pulock if that's the case

NSH declines. None of that junk makes them want to give up Jarnkrok and his bargain contract.

Glass or Krebs steps up. Maybe bring Haula back for half of Stastny. Tuch won’t be moved. Quote me. Marshy will probably be the one out of the top 6 that gets moved if they want to shake things up. Once again not the 24 year old who we haven’t even seen put it all together fully yet

Nice attempt for a first time however oilers very quickly decline. Nuge and Bouchard aren’t even close to being on the trade market.

Your definition of elite and my definition of elite must be way different. Nylander is not ELITE!!

I can understand Bouchard maybe being untouchable, but RNH is on the last year of his deal. Don't be surprised if the oilers move him for cap space to sign a few players or for futures at the dealing if the Oilers aren't in a playoff spot. Also I mean that is a very generous offer by Toronto, you cant ignore that.

Nuge is a very straight forward extension. He won’t price himself out of town in an excellent position for his career. Mcdavid might wear the C but when you hear of anyone in that organization talk about Nuge he’s every bit seen as the captain as mcdavid is. Oilers won’t be able to replace what he brings for less. Might be living in the shadow of mcdavid and Leon but every bit as important. Hard to see him leave Alberta played junior and professional hockey here owns a house has a ranch just in bc. Does very well with his horse racing.

As Preds fan - I like that trade.

Holl is a great 3rd pairing defenceman, which Nashville needs. Engvall can play in your bottom six. Jarkrok is on your third line regardless so I mean imo that's a fair trade

Jarnkrok was actually in NSH's top six this past season, and likely could be again if they don't sign some UFAs or make some other trades. Holl is fine, but not as good as Jarnkrok. Engvall is a fringe 4th liner that would probably be a healthy scratch most nights in NSH. If NSH decides to move Jarnkrok, they could get a return that makes more sense for them than this.