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Vancouver solving cap

Created by: anakin47
Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2020
Published: Sep. 21, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Trade ideas to fit under cap (for this year and next when Pettersson and Demko need deals). Leaves 30m open for 2021-22. Signed Ryan Miller and Jimmy Howard for backup and AHL starter.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
1$3,000,000
1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,000,000
4$5,000,000
1$1,300,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Baertschi, Sven ($1,683,333 retained)
  2. Gaudette, Adam [RFA Rights]
2.
VAN
  1. 2021 7th round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Condition: Pick is exchanged is Brandon Sutter plays in 70 games or scores 25 (or more) points
OTT
  1. Sutter, Brandon ($2,187,500 retained)
3.
4.
TOR
  1. Ferland, Micheal
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Pick upgraded to 2nd if Ferland does not play in 50 or more games in 2020-21
5.
6.
VAN
  1. 2021 7th round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Roussel, Antoine ($1,500,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the OTT
Logo of the NYI
2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,622,711$1,700,000$4,000,000$1,877,289
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$891,666$891,666 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,050,000$1,050,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Sep. 21, 2020 at 3:59 p.m.
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That's a big no from Columbus. Beagle doesn't move the needle for us; we need top-6 scoring forwards, particularly a 2C. And we're not gonna take that $3M cap hit for the next two years. Throw in a high pick and we'll talk.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 3:59 p.m.
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if anything you hurt the long-term cap way more.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Borocop
if anything you hurt the long-term cap way more.


I think the goal of keeping the good pieces of the team together while having enough cap space next offseason (i.e. swapping Eriksson for Abdelkader saves 1.75m for that signing, retaining 50% on Sutter and Roussel trades saves 3m, etc.). This should keep the group together, while removing the bad deals. Then they can worry about Abdelkader, Myers, etc. after Pettersson, Hughes, Demko are signed with the 30m they have next off season.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:06 p.m.
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no from isles
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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That's a big no from Columbus. Beagle doesn't move the needle for us; we need top-6 scoring forwards, particularly a 2C. And we're not gonna take that $3M cap hit for the next two years. Throw in a high pick and we'll talk.


yeah i mean i guess it could work. Demkos cap hit will be a major wild card in deciding how well
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
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Quoting: benjgc
That's a big no from Columbus. Beagle doesn't move the needle for us; we need top-6 scoring forwards, particularly a 2C. And we're not gonna take that $3M cap hit for the next two years. Throw in a high pick and we'll talk.


Thats fair. I viewed it as a free upgrade in your bottom 6 center for nearly the same cap hit. I thought about throwing a 3rd /4th round pick in, but decided against it as I would say Beagle is a somewhat decent amount better IMO.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.
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yeah i mean i guess it could work. Demkos cap hit will be a major wild card in deciding how well


The problem is that we already have a bottom-6 faceoff specialist who's offensively challenged, but he's younger: Boone Jenner. So Beagle really wouldn't help solve our need for scoring forwards.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Thats fair. I viewed it as a free upgrade in your bottom 6 center for nearly the same cap hit. I thought about throwing a 3rd /4th round pick in, but decided against it as I would say Beagle is a somewhat decent amount better IMO.


Beagle being better isn't the point here. His cap hit more than offsets any added on-ice value he offers. You're gonna have to send more to justify us taking on his contract.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.
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Detroit says yes but it makes no sense for Vancouver. Eriksson is less expensive and has less term.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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Detroit says yes but it makes no sense for Vancouver. Eriksson is less expensive and has less term.


It saves 1.75m on the cap
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Sep. 21, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
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It saves 1.75m on the cap


How? Eriksson has 2 seasons left at $6M per so $12M and Abdelkader has 3 seasons left at $4.25M per so $12.75M. Did you mix up Abdelkader and Neilson who has 2 seasons left at $5.25M per or $10.5M thats a savings of $1.5M
Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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How? Eriksson has 2 seasons left at $6M per so $12M and Abdelkader has 3 seasons left at $4.25M per so $12.75M. Did you mix up Abdelkader and Neilson who has 2 seasons left at $5.25M per or $10.5M thats a savings of $1.5M


Cap space is year by year.

2020-21 4.25 (Abdel) v 6 (Loui) = 1.75 savings
2021-22 4.25 (Abdel) v 6 (Loui) = 1.75 savings
2022-23 4.25 (Abdel) v 0 (Loui) = 4.25 extra

So overall, yes it costs more, but you save more in the years where you need to sign Boeser, Hughes, Demko and Pettersson
Sep. 21, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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Cap space is year by year.

2020-21 4.25 (Abdel) v 6 (Loui) = 1.75 savings
2021-22 4.25 (Abdel) v 6 (Loui) = 1.75 savings
2022-23 4.25 (Abdel) v 0 (Loui) = 4.25 extra

So overall, yes it costs more, but you save more in the years where you need to sign Boeser, Hughes, Demko and Pettersson


Ok but in that 3rd year now all of a sudden you have an extra $4.25M of cap. Trust me no one wants Abdelkader now and that isn't going to change as he gets older. It's smarter to give-up a pick or a prospect and move Eriksson and not bring back any cap. The new CBA states the cap will not rise more $1M in a single season until The NHL's HRR is over $4.8B for 2 consecutive season and hit most likely won't happen until the new TV deal is in place so for the next 3 season the cap isn't going to raise more than $1M each season.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.
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If I’m Columbus I might take this, Beagle and Nash are pretty even skill wise IMO, but Beagle has the cup experience Columbus doesn’t have. If Vancouver retained on Beagle to balance the cap hits it would be an acceptable deal, as it stands is a bit more questionable.
Sep. 21, 2020 at 8:52 p.m.
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VAN decline both Toronto trades. CBJ decline. Abdelkader is not waiving and Islanders already have enough bottom 6 forwards.
 
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