seems possible

Devils decline

Foolish. You guys don't exactly have any exciting defense prospects in your system.

Except its not inevitable.... The Trade for Hornqvist were close but per what Josh Yohe just tweeted 18mins ago it sounds like the trade is "stuck"

You didn't read my description. There's a key word there.

Ty Smith isn't too shabby

Yeah, he's not a bad prospect, but he's also probably one or two years away from jumping in and late round picks are never sure things. You're getting a sure thing.

Ty Smith, Kevin Bahl and Nikita Okhotyuk, all play on the left side. We have nothing on the right. Smith is a top 10 pick and CHL's defenseman of the year two years straight and would have made the team other than an injury in camp and weird CHL rules. Pettersson is a LD. He is not worth the first or Palms who is working on extension and is our only NHL caliber RW. We decline.

Those prospects aside from Smith are mediocre and Smith is only OK. Palmieri isn't staying. He wants to win before he hits his decline.

You guys are still two or three years away from being a playoff team. Top four dmen are more expensive to acquire and you're getting one cost-controlled for the next five which is much harder to come by than top-six forwards in a similar position. At the point you guys are ready Palmieri will be in full decline and you'll be stuck.

The Devils unfortunately don't have a great system. Outside of Boqvist and Foote there's not much there and will likely have to buy players to fill out your lineup around Hughes and Hischier, so getting opportunities to get young cost-controlled players is not something you guys can afford look past.

NJD declines.



Ty Smith (outside of Bowen Byram, is probably the best prospect drafted d-man) and Kevin Bahl are certainly top-4 candidates. Reilly Walsh, Daniil Misyul, Nikita Okhotyuk are likely NHLers. And Michael Vukojevich and Case McCarthry are possible candidates. Since they sold Andy Greene, Sami Vatenan...they are turning the page and could use 1-2 more top-4 guys.

Pettersson is good, but not at this price. It says it’s priced for a rental, but also says PIT has pre-negotiated an extension. So the add would be big if it’s a 25/30-goal scoring winger with term.

Lol

According to The Athletic, which just put out its under-23 rankings:

#2. New Jersey
#30. Pittsburgh

Smith, Bahl, Walsh, Okhotyuk

He was literally the last cut from the team in 2018 as an 18-year old. He was cut on camera without warning. All he did was go back to WHL and win defenseman of the year. Twice.

He is ready.

I said he's a decent prospect. The others are mediocre.

Who said the Pens have a good system? I certainly didn't.

They rank you #2 because of Hughes. Boqvist and Foote are very good prospects as I stated earlier. After that you have a decent prospect in Smith and the rest are all mediocre with lower chances of making the NHL. For a team that has stunk for as long as you guys have you should have a much deeper crop. The Rangers have been doing it less time and have a better crop.

Good, the other three are mediocre.

Pettersson, a legit #3 dman at 24 years old is not worth at $4M? I can't take anything you say seriously and nobody should. lol

Trade price...not his salary. He is not worth an extended Palmieiri + 1st. His salary is fine.



I did not say that you did. You said NJD didn't have a good system...#2 is pretty good.

What do you not like about them? Just a hunch that they are not NHLers?

Why do you like Foote, Boqvist?
What do you know about Kuokkanen? Talvitie?
Misyul? Tyce Thompson? How about Arseni Gritsyuk?

Show us you know what you are talking about...because until now, it sure doesn't sound like it.

#2 is because you have Hughes. You don't have deep system, especially for a team that's finished as low as you have for as long has you have. Hughes, Boqvist, Foote and Smith. It's a steep drop after that.

.....all the way down to Nico Hischier, Jesper Bratt, MacKenzie Blackwood....

There are certainly gaps in the NJD pipeline, but it is loaded with prospects and young players.

You made an unintelligent comment that you are unable to back up. It seems that you are just guessing and have no clue.

So, have a nice night and good luck.

Part of it is math and the draft years. I don't know about ALL of those guys, but leading up to the drafts I like looking into the projected first round guys, so I get slightly familiar. There was a bit of buzz about Boqvist and Foote. I also remember some thought Smith might go sooner, so I know he's a good prospect.

Kuokkanen is a big kid with some decent skill. His AHL performance suggests he could be a decent 3rd line forward. Tyce Thompson isn't much of anything. Talvitie? A 6th round pick? Come on. I dont know much about the others.

You'll have a nice core in your top six, but your D not only lacks ,they are a ways away from making it in aside from Smith, and there's nothing to say he's going to be a 2nd line player out of the gate. Forget the Pens, if some team is offering you a top four dman under contract for Palmieri then you take it. So much harder to come by than a forward. Palmieri is going to be 32/33 years by the time you guys are competing for a playoff spot and you'll be stuck with his contract. He's better suited for playoff-bound teams right now.

I'm talking about guys NOT in the NHL. What's not clear on that? Your defense is junk aside from Smith IN YOUR SYSTEM.

Severson and Butcher are what you have in the NHL. Smith is what you have outside. If you're lucky one of Bahl, Walsh or Okhotyuk will make it into the NHL. This isn't opinion. It's statistical fact. You can sit in denial and it's not that you shouldn't be excited about your team, but there are certain parts you lack LIKE ALL TEAMS DO and if you have a shot at getting it elsewhere for a reasonable cap hit then you take it for an aging player that can't help you in the future.

Every fan of every team thinks they have these gems that nobody else knows about and most of them won't sniff the NHL. It's just fact. When you have a chance to get a young proven NHL player, you take it over a prospect all day long.