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Created by: Mr_Gardoki
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 4, 2020
Published: Oct. 4, 2020
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Multiple reports are CHI is interested in Murray.
CHI doesn't have the Space for Murray.
With Dach coming up, they don't necessarily need Strome although he'd be a luxury. McCann would be a bargain replacement for 3C.
Obviously if CHI really wants Murray they will have to find a way to make the space, so I won't speculate on how they do that.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
1$1,250,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2020 7th round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
LA is kind of arbitrary. I believe the Pens can find a team to take him for a 2nd. Maybe they need to add a prospect like Legare.
2.
PIT
  1. Strome, Dylan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (PIT)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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22$81,500,000$79,925,175$0$850,000$1,574,825
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:02 p.m.
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tears of joy
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Its no secret he struggled this year, so whats your point? Nobody said he had a good year tears of joy


So why do you think you are trading a backup goalie who had a bad year for a 50 point 2C? tears of joy
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Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
You guys are mad because the Hawks fans don't want to make a deal because we don't care about your players. Just give up. We don't want them, leave us alone. Sorry we hurt your feelings


No one is mad, just pointing out the collective hawks contribution here.
Like the over valuing is nuts.
You realize Strome wasn't even going to break 20 goals. was probably gonna be a 15-16 goal year for him. But the total over valuation is just insane.
You should be his agent while he negotiates his contract here. He'll get 12 million per.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Why would we count that if weren’t not counting both of Dylan Strome’s years? Also, NHL’s average save percentage is about .915. So like I said, average to below average goalie.

You said "he’s been an average to below-average player for the three seasons since winning his two cups. " And if .915 is average, and Murray had a save % of .919, wouldn't that mean he had an above average year?
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
tears of joy

So why do you think you are trading a backup goalie who had a bad year for a 50 point 2C? tears of joy


lmao where is that 2c at? Cause its not strome
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
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Not upset at all. Im fine with Crosby and Malkin as the centers over Dylan Strome tears of joy So are you answering my questions? Or you have no response to them so you are trying to avoid them?


Why did they get embarrassed by Montreal? I don't know, would you consider the 7th place team a "bad team"?
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Ok, so let’s talk about how you have to go back multiple years to fit your narrative about Murray being a good goalie, when he certainly wasn’t this year.


you do realize 18-19 he had one of the best 5v5 save% and his defense consisted of....get ready now. Jack Johnson, Justin "I suck in my own end" Schultz, and Erik Gudbranson.
I mean really, how you think old crow there would have done with that defense....since he's your hero.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
Why did they get embarrassed by Montreal? I don't know, would you consider the 7th place team a "bad team"?


That 7th place team got embarrassed by the 24th place team lmao tears of joy just stop trying at this point
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:07 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
No one is mad, just pointing out the collective hawks contribution here.
Like the over valuing is nuts.
You realize Strome wasn't even going to break 20 goals. was probably gonna be a 15-16 goal year for him. But the total over valuation is just insane.
You should be his agent while he negotiates his contract here. He'll get 12 million per.


What are you talking about? The Penguins are the ones overrated Murray. He literally put up sub back up level stats this season and you want us to use him as our starting goalie. I already said, if he's a starting goalie then just keep him yourself and replace him with Jarry and you have a deal.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
you do realize 18-19 he had one of the best 5v5 save% and his defense consisted of....get ready now. Jack Johnson, Justin "I suck in my own end" Schultz, and Erik Gudbranson.
I mean really, how you think old crow there would have done with that defense....since he's your hero.


I don't know when you have Seabrook, I don't know if Jack Johnson looks so bad
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
What are you talking about? The Penguins are the ones overrated Murray. He literally put up sub back up level stats this season and you want us to use him as our starting goalie. I already said, if he's a starting goalie then just keep him yourself and replace him with Jarry and you have a deal.


he was lights out the first half the season. WTF are you talking about.
Dumo got hurt and Jack Johnson was his 1LD....yeah, Murray is the problem..... #Logic
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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That 7th place team got embarrassed by the 24th place team lmao tears of joy just stop trying at this point


Ok but they still managed to become the 7th place team. You pretending like that happens by accident is hilarious. What's even more hilarious is the fact that Penguins fans are now putting down their own team just to make their sub back up level goalie look good.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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he was lights out the first half the season. WTF are you talking about.
Dumo got hurt and Jack Johnson was his 1LD....yeah, Murray is the problem..... #Logic


Ok then let him be lights out for you.. we don't want him
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I don't know when you have Seabrook, I don't know if Jack Johnson looks so bad


Seabrook my have a worse contract, but at least he isn't putting the puck in the net for the other team.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
Ok but they still managed to become the 7th place team. You pretending like that happens by accident is hilarious. What's even more hilarious is the fact that Penguins fans are now putting down their own team just to make their sub back up level goalie look good.


"Putting down their own team" lmao they lost to the 24th place team. It was a bad playoff loss. Theres not sugarcoating it little buddy. Like I said, just stop trying
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:12 p.m.
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Quoting: pharrow
Seabrook my have a worse contract, but at least he isn't putting the puck in the net for the other team.


Ok well I've never heard the "Hawks have a great defensive core" argument haha. I mean I think it's going to be great in the coming years but it's definitely been subpar the past two seasons. Our strength has been our goaltending last season with Crawford and Lehner playing very well. I can guarantee you that whatever offer Murray is asking for can be matched for Crawford who won't be inconsistent.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:12 p.m.
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I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Murray gets traded to chicago. You will end up paying big because your GM just loves to do great trades with GMJR. But don't worry, Buffalo will probably be the team to benefit in the end.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:13 p.m.
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"Putting down their own team" lmao they lost to the 24th place team. It was a bad playoff loss. Theres not sugarcoating it little buddy. Like I said, just stop trying


I mean I guess you are right if you say so, the Penguins are awful and Murray is just as bad haha. cool well we don't want him regardless
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Murray gets traded to chicago. You will end up paying big because your GM just loves to do great trades with GMJR. But don't worry, Buffalo will probably be the team to benefit in the end.


So you are admitting that Chicago getting Murray would be bad for Chicago. Why did you just try to prop him up
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I mean I guess you are right if you say so, the Penguins are awful and Murray is just as bad haha. cool well we don't want him regardless


Yeah he was awful lol. .914 save % 2.50 gaa. Lets check on that great 2nd line center Dylan Strome. 3 points in 9 games. Yikes
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.
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So you are admitting that Chicago getting Murray would be bad for Chicago. Why did you just try to prop him up


I lost 10 IQ points reading your comment. So did everyone else. It's that bad.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:21 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
You said "he’s been an average to below-average player for the three seasons since winning his two cups. " And if .915 is average, and Murray had a save % of .919, wouldn't that mean he had an above average year?


I would say he was average on an above average team.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:25 p.m.
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I would say he was average on an above average team.


Sure. Go with whatever makes you feel better
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:28 p.m.
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Yeah he was awful lol. .914 save % 2.50 gaa. Lets check on that great 2nd line center Dylan Strome. 3 points in 9 games. Yikes


You just love cherry picking stats. If Murray has better stats in the playoffs then the penguins sucked and Murray was a star but in the regular season you ignore the fact that the penguins were great and Murray was awful. Also the reason Montreal won was because of their goaltending not their goal scorers.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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Sure. Go with whatever makes you feel better


It's kind of like Fleury, all you have to do is a reasonably below average job and the Penguins can win.
Oct. 4, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
You just love cherry picking stats. If Murray has better stats in the playoffs then the penguins sucked and Murray was a star but in the regular season you ignore the fact that the penguins were great and Murray was awful. Also the reason Montreal won was because of their goaltending not their goal scorers.


When did I ignore the fact murray was awful in the regular season? Please show me
 
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