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No Tavares

Created by: Dougy
Initial Creation Date: Oct 10, 2020
Published: Oct 10, 2020 at 11:53
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
just wanted to see what type of team could be put together with the cap space from not having signed Tavares. With the added cap space I tried to be as fair as I could with the different contracts.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dermott, Travis1$900,000
Mikheyev, Ilya2$1,600,000
Weegar, MacKenzie4$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Eakin, Cody5$3,600,000
Perry, Corey2$2,000,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Kadri, Nazem
Additional Details:
cancel the kadri trade since we would've keeped him if Tavares did not come to the team
COL
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
TOR
  1. 2022 7th round pick (DET)
just to get rid of the cap hit
DET
  1. Tavares, John
TOR
  1. Weegar, MacKenzie [RFA Rights]
FLA
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
DET
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,296,450$0$0$1,203,550
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Eakin, Cody
$3,600,000
C
UFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Perry, Corey
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
Weegar, MacKenzie
$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$900,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Oct 10, 2020 at 11:55
#1
Joined: Aug 2020
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Edited Oct 10, 2020 at 12:03
tbh I'd rather have tavares lol

all this does is make you overpay for bad depth players
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Oct 10, 2020 at 11:56
#2
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 109
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Kadri was traded after Tavares' first season in Toronto and he's not the reason Kadri was traded.

It's because in 14 playoff games in two years Kadri played 3
Oct 10, 2020 at 12:00
#3
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 749
Likes: 289
This team is worse. I will say that Tavares got marner that contract tho so he probably would’ve signed for less.
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Oct 10, 2020 at 12:00
#4
themostleaf33
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 1,431
Likes: 284
Lol Eakin above Kadri and at a 3.6 million dollar deal???!!! HAHAAHAHA. Perry making 2 mill to play on the 4th line is also hillarious lmao

Eakin gets 2 mill max from any team, and I would rather have Haula anyway.
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Oct 10, 2020 at 12:03
#5
Build a wall
Joined: Apr 2020
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You can play this woulda-coulda-shoulda game all day long, it doesn't matter. Tavares is a leafs, and it's great.
Oct 10, 2020 at 12:11
#6
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 76
Likes: 42
If Tavares never signs, I think Matthews accepts 10M; Nylander doesn't hold out for 7.5; and Marner would be more willing to accept ~8.5M. Leafs would have likely saved 3-4.5M on top of the 11M for Tavares. No doubt contracts for Johnsson and Kapanen would have been less too, and they could have kept Brown

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Mikheyev - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Nylander - Kapanen
Barabanov - Engvall/Spezza - Simmonds

Money saved by not signing Tavares + the difference between Kerfoot and Brown's contract, maybe they could afford both Pietrangelo and Brodie. Maybe.

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Brodie
Dermott - Lehtonen/Holl

MAYBE.
Oct 10, 2020 at 1:29
#7
Build a wall
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Likes: 3,035
Quoting: prc
If Tavares never signs, I think Matthews accepts 10M; Nylander doesn't hold out for 7.5; and Marner would be more willing to accept ~8.5M. Leafs would have likely saved 3-4.5M on top of the 11M for Tavares. No doubt contracts for Johnsson and Kapanen would have been less too, and they could have kept Brown

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Mikheyev - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Nylander - Kapanen
Barabanov - Engvall/Spezza - Simmonds

Money saved by not signing Tavares + the difference between Kerfoot and Brown's contract, maybe they could afford both Pietrangelo and Brodie. Maybe.

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Brodie
Dermott - Lehtonen/Holl

MAYBE.


Nope. If you just do the math, you will find the combo of Brown (lets say he signs for 3.3 mil now), Kapanen and Kadri, this add to 11 mil, which just so happens to be exactly what Tavares is payed. Sure, it take out roster spot, so it lessens 1.5 mil, but nonetheless, that is how much needs to be cleared to get under the cap. It is nowhere close to enough to sign Pietro. People greatly overexaderate how much Tavares costs.
Oct 10, 2020 at 4:41
#8
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 76
Likes: 42
Quoting: Saskleaf
Nope. If you just do the math, you will find the combo of Brown (lets say he signs for 3.3 mil now), Kapanen and Kadri, this add to 11 mil, which just so happens to be exactly what Tavares is payed. Sure, it take out roster spot, so it lessens 1.5 mil, but nonetheless, that is how much needs to be cleared to get under the cap. It is nowhere close to enough to sign Pietro. People greatly overexaderate how much Tavares costs.


I did do the math. If Matthews et la. took 1-1.5M less; Johnsson and Kapanen took 0.2M less, you could sign Pietrangelo at 9, and Brodie at 5, with room to spare.

Tavares inflated the price of Toronto's RFAs. You're gonna see the same thing with Panarin in NY once Zibanejad, LaFreniere, and Kaako are due raises and have Panarin as a comparable at 11.5
Oct 10, 2020 at 6:50
#9
Build a wall
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Quoting: prc
I did do the math. If Matthews et la. took 1-1.5M less; Johnsson and Kapanen took 0.2M less, you could sign Pietrangelo at 9, and Brodie at 5, with room to spare.

Tavares inflated the price of Toronto's RFAs. You're gonna see the same thing with Panarin in NY once Zibanejad, LaFreniere, and Kaako are due raises and have Panarin as a comparable at 11.5


It's a little unfair to say this, the big 4 could have demanded just as much minus Tavares, also 1.5 less is not equal to 9.
 
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