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Bergevin is going to have to pay his UFA forwards a lot

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If I'm Armia I want close to what Anderson got, if I'm Tatar I want a little more, if I'm Gallagher or Danault I want a lot more.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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Armia's not getting more than Toffoli did at 4.25, Tatar will most likely walk or get traded at the deadline, and Danault Gallagher probably getting 6-6.5mil per.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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If you’re Armia and want what Anderson got than you’re playing somewhere else. Gallagher I can see being a guy that just wants to win and will take 6 or less per. Danault is the iffy one hopefully Peohling is ready to replace him in case he moves on. Tatar is good but he isn’t getting a raise he might not even get an offer with the entire prospect pool still intact
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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Tatar and Armia are probably gone, Gallagher will be resigned, to early to tell what's going to happen with Danault.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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If you’re Armia and want what Anderson got than you’re playing somewhere else. Gallagher I can see being a guy that just wants to win and will take 6 or less per. Danault is the iffy one hopefully Peohling is ready to replace him in case he moves on. Tatar is good but he isn’t getting a raise he might not even get an offer with the entire prospect pool still intact


Gally has said ( via his agent) that he is willing to take less than 6M for a longterm contract.

Danault is not getting more than 5.5M or he walks

Tatar will most likely stay at the same cap space as he is 30 and he likes MTL and he might not get more elsewhere.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Armia's not getting more than Toffoli did at 4.25, Tatar will most likely walk or get traded at the deadline, and Danault Gallagher probably getting 6-6.5mil per.


Quoting: Bigshame
If you’re Armia and want what Anderson got than you’re playing somewhere else. Gallagher I can see being a guy that just wants to win and will take 6 or less per. Danault is the iffy one hopefully Peohling is ready to replace him in case he moves on. Tatar is good but he isn’t getting a raise he might not even get an offer with the entire prospect pool still intact


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Tatar and Armia are probably gone, Gallagher will be resigned, to early to tell what's going to happen with Danault.


I'm not sure why people should expect Gallagher to take a home town discount when they just overpaid an RFA and he'll be a UFA. I gave 7.5 M here, but he's a UFA to Anderson's RFA, and there production is INCOMPARABLE. Danault was a selke candidate this year. Both should be looking at 7+ as UFA's after what Bergy gave an unproven and off injury Anderson.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
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Armia and Tatar will walk!

This was a team that finished 24th overall.

They needed changes. I don’t think anyone can say differently after spinning their wheels since 2014.

Toffoli is a proven effective player and a more consistent player than Armia!

They can also sell both, Tatar and Armia, if need be if they are not in the playoffs at the deadline.
Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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I'm not sure why people should expect Gallagher to take a home town discount when they just overpaid an RFA and he'll be a UFA. I gave 7.5 M here, but he's a UFA to Anderson's RFA, and there production is INCOMPARABLE. Danault was a selke candidate this year. Both should be looking at 7+ as UFA's after what Bergy gave an unproven and off injury Anderson.


That's fine, but if Gally wants that kind of money he's not getting it with MTL unfortunately... He's played a lot of tough minutes and battled thru a few injuries so anything more than 6mil and he's probably on a new team come 2021-22
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:54 p.m.
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I'm not sure why people should expect Gallagher to take a home town discount when they just overpaid an RFA and he'll be a UFA. I gave 7.5 M here, but he's a UFA to Anderson's RFA, and there production is INCOMPARABLE. Danault was a selke candidate this year. Both should be looking at 7+ as UFA's after what Bergy gave an unproven and off injury Anderson.


Anderson is not unproven. He had 3 consecutive progressive seasons and than got hurt. I could see gallagher doing it knowing he’s helping his team. Maybe take 6 mil for 7 years knowing he’ll probably get bought out after 5 IF he starts to slow down which a guy that plays the way he does is very likely
Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.
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Gally walks, or traded same for Tatar, and Danault. And that aint bad. They keep Armia
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: BCAPP
I'm not sure why people should expect Gallagher to take a home town discount when they just overpaid an RFA and he'll be a UFA. I gave 7.5 M here, but he's a UFA to Anderson's RFA, and there production is INCOMPARABLE. Danault was a selke candidate this year. Both should be looking at 7+ as UFA's after what Bergy gave an unproven and off injury Anderson.


Your argument makes no sense. The habs just signed Tofolli to $4.25M / yr and he was a UFA. He is very comparable to Gallagher.

Maybe the Toffoli signing was already a pre-emptive signing to replace Gallagher. I'm sure Bergevin has an idea of what Gallagher wants for an extension already.

Lastly, the habs paid Anderson for what they believe he will be. A 6'3" top 6 powerforward, in his three healthy seasons he was like 24th overall in G/60.
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Oct. 12, 2020 at 4:14 p.m.
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Your argument makes no sense. The habs just signed Tofolli to $4.25M / yr and he was a UFA. He is very comparable to Gallagher.

Maybe the Toffoli signing was already a pre-emptive signing to replace Gallagher. I'm sure Bergevin has an idea of what Gallagher wants for an extension already.

Lastly, the habs paid Anderson for what they believe he will be. A 6'3" top 6 powerforward, in his three healthy seasons he was like 24th overall in G/60.


If anyone says Bergevin hasn’t made necessary changes. Changes that were obvious during the course of the year. They haven’t been watching this team play. Looking at that guy’s bias in thinking anything other than this as win-win for the Habs, just click on his profile. Answered right there!
Oct. 12, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.
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Anderson is not unproven. He had 3 consecutive progressive seasons and than got hurt. I could see gallagher doing it knowing he’s helping his team. Maybe take 6 mil for 7 years knowing he’ll probably get bought out after 5 IF he starts to slow down which a guy that plays the way he does is very likely


Well he's unproven as anything more than a third line forward.

He has one season above 40 points or 20 goals. That's unproven to me...
Oct. 12, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
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Your argument makes no sense. The habs just signed Tofolli to $4.25M / yr and he was a UFA. He is very comparable to Gallagher.

Maybe the Toffoli signing was already a pre-emptive signing to replace Gallagher. I'm sure Bergevin has an idea of what Gallagher wants for an extension already.

Lastly, the habs paid Anderson for what they believe he will be. A 6'3" top 6 powerforward, in his three healthy seasons he was like 24th overall in G/60.


Bergevin is a terrible negotiator to pay a 26 year old for what they believe he can be to make him your highest paid forward and for 7 years. Especially when he's coming off 1 goal and hadn't played since major surgery. But good luck there.

In regards to Toffoli is basically Gallagher... That's crazy talk.

Over the last three years here are Domi, Anderson, Gallagher, and Toffoli
Player/GP/goals/points
Domi 235 GP 54 G 171 pts
Anderson 171 GP 47 G 81 pts
Gallagher 223 GP 86 G 150 pts
Toffoli 212 GP 61 goals 124 points

So no Toffoli is not the same player as Gallagher. He's a better version of Anderson which also goes to show how risky that contract is.

Domi is the best overall points with Gallagher the best goal scorer.

Toffoli is also coming from outside the organization. If I'm Gallagher I would expect my way better production than Anderson to lead me to be paid way more
Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.
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Gallagher is certainly worth 6.5 million per year and shouldn't get a penny less. He's best player in the team a'd scores 30 goals.

Danault has all the intangibles is a great player and definitely in the selke conversation. He needs more points to be getting more money but he's easily worth 5.5 million per season. Can't see another team paying 6 million or more in this climate. Tatar easily gets 5. 5 million.

You need almost 7 million to sign all three. Plus you gotta up Kotkaniemi on a bridge deal. If he lights it up this year even worse. Next year Byron, Jake Allen, Kulak, and Armia are gone to pay for Danault, Gallagher and Kotkaniemi. Tatar walks, enter Caufield.
 
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