VGK already said they aren't trading Fleury

Did they now? Why? Seems dumb

Sabres accept

I would rather Montour goes back to Vegas but I like this idea

Yes they did. Think they had too many issues trying to move him.

I actually had Montour but figured he was too valuable. Lol

I guess they want to keep him now that Lehner is getting surgery

Update: Vegas GM Kelly McCrimmon said tonight on a media call that Fleury would be on the roster when camp opens next season. Which doesn’t surprise since they missed their more favourable window to deal him pre-free agency. https://t.co/gt1kJpOzLI

— Pierre LeBrun (@PierreVLeBrun) October 13, 2020

Jeez how long is Lehner out?

He said he'll be back for training camp. Apparently it's just a "clean up surgery", whatever that means

It sounds like a lay person trying to explain an arthroscopic surgery for loose bodies and mild cartiligenous repair/debridement but no major tendon or labral injuries

Let’s be honest, they’re not trading him because no other team wanted him. They offered MAF to every team in the league for FREE plus a 2nd. Now, with no other options they have to keep him and feigning loyalty to him.

Yup. Can't argue with that

And also...
NO ONE WANTED FLEURY

McPhee, Botterill and Murray all think Montour is more valuable than Miller. Montour was traded for a first, Miller for a second.
Montour had 18 pts, +13, 19:30 TOI/gm, 00:40 PP TOI, 1031 PDO
Miller had 11 pts, -9, 17:08 TOI/gm, 1:22 PP TOI, 981 PDO
But somehow nearly all CF AGM think Miller if more valuable.
Now you know why I lost all of my hair reading some of the Sabre AGM comments about the Sabre players.

As to the trade.
I think Hutton will bounce back and it has been reported Miller did very well playing with Dahlin.
I may make this trade to turns the keys over to Ullmark and cut $6,600,000 of cap.
Cutting that much off of the cap is worth a first round pick (see Marleau trade)
Then I get the second back that I used to pick up Miller.
Many sport writers (I know it is bad to use them as a source) report that Borgan is NHL ready which could mean Miller could be moved.
Brandon Davidson has collect 8 pts playing for 6 different teams over the past three years does not appear to be the answer to our LHD spot.
So they would need to look elsewhere.
Maybe they could convince Pilut to return to the team?

Is pilut not expected back?

If it makes sense, I believe Montour is a more valuable player, but I think Colin Miller is more valuable to the Sabres because he is the perfect balance to Dahlin. Also Botteril was pretty bad at evaluating talent. Borgen is ready but I just don't see a spot for him this year unfortunately

I am thrilled that we got Staal and Hall, But, if there was one thing Botterill did well it was add talent to this team
Montour was and is a first pairing defensemen. He was among the top 60 NHL defensemen in TOI/gm and Pts the two years prior to Krueger.
Even under Krueger only Ristolainen played more minutes per game than he.
Miller for second was a steal as he was also near first pairing defensemen and the reports are that he played well with Dahlin.
Jokiharju in a few years could be the Sabres top RHD.
That is half of the defense that was ninth lowest giving up 5 on 5 goals, playing in front of a blind GK and behind an offence that could not keep the puck in the offensive zone.
Mittelstadt played 3rd line minutes, with 3rd line wingers and his 25 pts ranked 244th among all forwards that year.
1 to 93 are first line performers (52 or more pts),
94 to 186 are second line performers (33 or more pts)
and 187 to 279 are third line performers (21 or more pts).
He is hardly a bust. BTW only 8 players from that draft have more pts than he and he was taken 8th overall.
Kahun, really for Sheary and Rodrigues.
Cozens for sure will be better than Reinhart.
While Skinner (among 6 other skaters had career worse seasons playing for Krueger) showed his talents last year and we only had to give up a 2nd, 3rd and 6th?
That is 4 forwards who all could play at least mid six minutes, Kahun and Mittelstadt 3rd line, and Cozens and Skinner 2nd line.

Please compare the signings of Lazar, Gilmour, Dea and Hammond to Irwin, Davidson and Reider.
I doubt any of the latter will have an impact in the AHL while Dea led the Amerks, Lazar could win key faceoffs, Gilmour was the teams 7th defenseman at the beginning of the season.
Over the past 3 years Davidson has 8 pts playing for SIX different teams, what impact do you think he will make?
Irwin is a bit better but he is 32 and only had 3 pts last year.

You may complain about the O'Reilly trade but this team finished second last then last in the Atlantic and finally last over all with him in the line up.
In his locker room clean out interview he said he gave up from the beginning of the season.

The becomes even more dramatic when compared to Murray
He did nothing to improve the mid six.
Check out the defense he left Botterill:
2016-17 Buffalo Sabres:
34 Casey Nelson D 11 Rochester Americans
67 Brady Austin D 5 Kladno
45 Brendan Guhle D 3 San Diego Gulls
46 Erik BurgdoerferD 2 Hershey Bears
77 Dmitri Kulikov D 47 Winnipeg Jets
4 Josh Gorges D 66 Out of hockey
38 Taylor Fedun D 27 Texas Stars
41 Justin Falk D 52 Belleville Senators
47 Zach Bogosian D 56 Tampa Bay Lightning
6 Cody Franson D 68 Omsk Avangard
29 Jake McCabe D 76 Buffalo Sabres
55 Rasmus RistolainenD 79 Buffalo Sabres
No one would mistake that for team primed to make the playoffs.

I am sorry for my rant, but Botterill was left with a center who did not want to play here, a LW who liked girls, a GK who like to drink, an AHL defense and ONE mid six forward.
Then add in an over paid AHL LW, Moulson and and overpaid fourth line RW, Okposo.
Well Moulson is finally gone, but now under Adams our fourth line has a $10,450,000 cap hit.

I know Botterill had other myopic flaws, and I know I will not convince you otherwise but to say Botterill did not know how to judge talent, give me a break.