He's had six seasons in the league. He hasn't played a full season because he isn't good enough to be in the lineup every night. He didn't get scratched in the postseason because he's too good and it wouldn't be fair to the other team.

Dude your telling me this huge cap difference and you have no idea what one player is even signing for. Telling me to add 20k and 30k In. That every bit counts. That I rounded down. When it’s not there. It’s not a huge cap difference. And we’ll see who the healthy scratch’s will be this year. If they carry 7th-8th defender. It’ll be Harpur and Tinordi.

And the Pens Minors system on cap friendly doesn’t work likethat. the next player down in the minors has nothing to do with the next player being called up for the Pens depth Charts? The minors are mostly in order of when they were drafted. Go over to the right all the way..it’s usually in order of their draft place.

I posted an article from hockey writers saying “security”, “value” and gives example of another contract and says Pens got a good deal compared to other NHL contracts. Keep reading man, I’m not going and reading them all
again. I know articles have those quotes.

Not every player plays at 18-19-20-21 years old man. His 1st full year was last year at 23 years old. His 1st seasons at 18 and 19. When most players are still
Playing in the AHL or overseas still, u know?? He was up playing in the NHL. Being a replacement for injuries and when the team needed a jolt. Cause at 18 and 19 years and not being a huge body. That’s pretty impressive to have any games logged in the NHL. 1st full season last year at 23 years old. Great. Good trajectory!! On his way to 25-30 goals this year in 80-82 games. At 24 years old!!

So playing in the NHL at 18 and 19 years old. At only 6’1, 185 right now. I wonder why he didn’ t play every game. He must suck. 18-19 year old kid can’t even play against NHL players. Worthless!!

He’s played 6 seasons can’t even play a full year. You forget he’s 24..lol..that was 18-19 year kid playing 60 games in the NHL. Where’s P.Tomasino?? He’s 19 and can’t even play 1 game in the NHL..lol. By this age, McCann already has 2 full
Seasons according to
U..!! Lol. Get. Rid of that Tomasino!! No good!!

Again with the cap stuff? I showed my work on that. NSH takes on over $1.6M in your proposal (assuming $2.5M for Kunin. Admittedly, it we don't know for certain yet, but that seems a reasonable ballpark). It's not a 20-30K difference. I know counting things has proven challenging in Pennsylvania of late, but I only have so much patience.

Harpur would definitely be a surprise as the 8th defenseman. Even if he is though, then his salary counts against NSH's cap, like any other player's would. You still have to account for an equal number of players and roster spots, when comparing the salaries in a proposal like this.

The Pens system doesn't seem to be in order of when they were drafted, but it's not any sort of official team document, so I wouldn't stress about it much. Regardless, Carrier makes the most sense as NSH's #7, with the current roster.

Finally, you've been claiming everyone heralds Pettersson's contract as one of the best bargains in the league. No one is saying that. You've provided a few instances where people said it's solid. That's not the same thing at all. And even if it does provide solid value for a 2nd line defenseman in PIT, that doesn't mean it's solid value in NSH, where he'd be on the 3rd pair for a year before SEA takes him. If anything NSH should be looking to trade away a top four defenseman before the expansion draft, not add a 5th guy who needs protection.

Huge cap difference u said. It’s 1M-1.5M. U said I rounded down? Can u not read? That’s were the 20k and 30k comes from. U said every bit counts. U round McCann and Pettersson down. McCann I said 2.9M. He makes 2,920,000. 20K..get it!? And Peterson makes 4M I said. He makes 4,030,000M. 30K?? Get it. You’re trying so hard to prove a big cap difference you are telling me I rounded and forgot the 20k and 30k..lol. Hope that explains it, I know it’s hard.

And like I said 10 fu**ing Million times. Keep reading. I’m not re-reading all the articles. I know the quotes are in there saying it’s gonna prove to be a great contract. And top contract on every 31 teams. Pettersson was ours. Which mean’s hes a top contract in the NHL. I’m not gonna keep going through and searching and rereading articles I already read. I know the quotes and comparisons are there. I know what’s in them already. I gave u 2 articles from the 1st page of google that just about prove what I said.

McCann has played over 300 games over 6 NHL seasons. That's longer than most NHL careers last, I think there's enough evidence out there to judge what kind of player he is. He may not have fully peaked yet, but expecting 30 goal seasons from him moving forward is not remotely realistic.

I don't really get where you're going on that Tomasino rant at the end. Maybe get someone to help you proofread it, and give it another shot? TBH, most of this last post of yours is pretty incoherent, but it makes less sense as it goes on. I honestly can't even tell what points you're failing to make this time.

Dumb dumb, u can’t read? Tomasino must be real bad. According to you McCann played 6 full seasons. He’s 24. So he started at 18 years old, playing in the NHL. Right dumby?? Get it?? So Tomasino being 19 years old and not playing in one NHL game, must really suck!!

I’m Not writing anyone. You don’t even read it. Or u can’t read. Or can’t comprehend? Don’t u understand McCann was a kid playing at 18-19 u f**cking re**tard.

Unlike you, I took the time to read the links you've provided. None of them say anything other than it's a fine deal. Once again, NO ONE ELSE IS SAYING IT'S ONE OF THE BEST CONTRACTS IN THE LEAGUE. You're the only one who claimed that, and none of your "evidence" backs that up. Maybe you had a dream where you read something like that, but in real life not even Pettersson's mom thinks that. I can't tell if you've had too much to drink, or you're up way past your bedtime, but please take a break from this. I can't tell if you're an 80 year old, or an eight year old by your posts, but it doesn't seem likely you're anywhere in between. Rational adults can reason much better than this.

Yep, U f**king loser!!

Yeah, definitely a child then. You can't back up any of your claims, you refuse to listen to the other side, and now you're throwing a tantrum because you don't have the emotional maturity to accept being challenged. I tried to be civil. It's a shame you can't do the same.

I don't like the trade but I would love to see them sign Vatanen!!

I mean I've read stuff that goes through the Pens depth chart and lists Jankowski as their 3C, but I can almost assuredly say that's not going to go well for the Penguins and they won't stick with it long. Jankowski have never played that number of minutes and hasn't been an NHL regular for some time. I really see Jankowski as a redundant player to Blueger.. Great shutdown, hurts the offense. Unless you're content with only two lines producing offense, I don't know that you want a Jankowski-Blueger middle six. I also wouldn't put too much (or any!) stock in what happened in the playoffs this year, for all teams, but especially Pittsburgh who had a very small sample size to go on. McCann is great when he has the puck, the problem is that he doesn't have the puck very often. You throw a winger that has solid Corsi For with him and I think he'll stick at 3C fine.

IMO, the best Pittsburgh starting lineup with what they have looks like:

Guentzal - Crosby - Rust
Zucker - Malkin - Kapanen
Poulin - McCann - Scevior
Aston-Reese - Blueger - Tanev

Rodrigues and Lafferty/Jankowski are your scratches. I actually think this is a pretty strong forward crew, assuming Poulin is an impact player.

Would have been better with Cousins and Hornqvist instead of Scevior and Kapanen but what can you do. At least they save cap.

there could be an argument for Cousins over Bluegar, but not McCann. McCann has had 35 points back to back years, and this year he would've gotten over 40 had it not been for covid. Cousins career high is 27. Not to mention McCann is 24 and still has a bit of room to grow, while Cousins is what he is. He provides more value than Cousins. Also, Cousins spent majority of the season in MTL, not sure where ur getting he was Vegas 3C "all year"...

I agree petterson doesn't have one of the best contract in the NHL, but its definitely very solid. It's a B contract. He's worth every penny of it, but its not exactly a steal

McCann IS good enough to be in the lineup every night. he should be a 35-45 point player who can play C and LW. He wasn't in the lineup because of a poor decision by Mike Sullivan. McCann's extension wasn't an overpay at all. Hes a very underrated player

Yeah, I totally agree it's fair and all, there's just nothing special or really good about it. Solid perfectly describes it.

With the right linemates I think he's fine, but I can't see him ever carrying his line. Even if it's just the 3rd line.

if pens add Haula this offseason as a last minute bargain add, and there is a third line of:
McCann-Haula-Tanev
it would be reasonable to assume McCann can get at least in the 35-45 point range again.

McCann was actually very productive this year as our 2C because Crosby was injured. He did well in that role, especially with all the injuries of players in and out of the lineup. His production dropped later in the season when sid came back and pens went on that massive cold streak

Janko is 26 years old, 1st round pedigree, good two-way Center. A lot of Pens fans are sleeping on him. He had 17 goals and 25 points his 1st season, and 14 goals and 32 points his 2nd season. Yes, last year he sh*t the bed. But that’s an easy season to write off(easy year to write-off for everyone..lol). If he had a similar season to his 1st two or just improved a bit. His narrative would be completely different. It would be a recent 1st round pick, 26 years old, coming off his E-L contract and 1st team. Ready for his break-out year!! And maybe just Calgary mis-used him.He would be a sought after free-agent. Instead it’s a show-me contract! Show me u can get back to atleast the production of your first 2 years and last year was a fluke. His 4th season, only 2nd team, good pedigree, I’m excited to see what he can with the Pens!!

Everything I have read after last season, says JR and Sully and every article says McCann is more comfortable as winger. A LW, seeing as he’s a left-handed shot and LW has more defensive responsibilities than RW. He’s a scorer. Great shot!! And good defensively. Not a play-making Center that can carry a line if need be. 20 goal potential. 14 goals last year and 19 goals in 18-19. Like I’ve been saying, and how he has proven my point over and over saying he has 6 seasons in the NHL..lol. He’s 24, and a 22nd pick, and played games in the NHL since 18 years old. At 6’1, 190, not a huge body and still playing in the NHL at 19 years old. I bet every team wishes their 22nd pick in the draft is good enough to play in the NHL at 18. And none were full seasons, playing on a consistent line every night; he’s been used back and forth b/ween a top 6, 1st or 2nd line winger, or 3rd line Center, or 4th line winger from the time he was 18-22 Years old in the NHL, But last year at 23, was his 1st full season having that consistency. And he’s primed for a break-out year. Made all his mistakes and everything as a 18-23 year old kid in the NHL playing against NHL players, and now he gets that consistent 3rd line LW spot and time on the 2nd PP unit all year. Has had 2 back to back 35 point seasons, like u said. Last year 15 goals and 35 points, the year prior, had 19 goals and 35 points. Ready for that 20 plus goal season at just 24 years old!!

And everything from Sully and JR says they want to see and are happy with Janko as their 3rd line Center. I agree with you though, if they sign Haula, he’s defiantly a better scorer and play-maker than Janko. But like I said, I’m as interested in 26 year old Janko and his potential as JR and Sully are. I think with Haula, u know what u are getting, will be his 5th team in 8 years. But yes, he’s a proven 3rd line Center and would be much more capable of moving to that 1st/2nd line Center if Crosby or Malkin miss any time.

Personally, I would much rather see The Granlund signing though. I think Nashville Mis-used him the last 2 years with their defensive style. And then have the 3rd line of McCann/Janko/Granlund and move Rodrigues down to the 4th line RW until ZAR is back and healthy. And Granlund could move to the 1st/2nd line Center if Crosby/Malkin miss any time!! And Granlund is a year younger than Haula and definitely not as injury prone. Haula hasn't played even half of a season in the last 4 years. But yes, a more proven 3rd line Center than Janko!! And if it’s a cheap deal, I can’t see the downside. But still not the 67-69 point seasons Granlund has had. And like I said, Granlund is 29 and not injury prone, has played 7 full seasons of 68games a year plus. Haula is 30 and is very injury prone. Has only played 4 full seasons out of 9.

I fully support either a Haula or Granlund signing.

Agreed!! Even C.Wilson!!(another Nashville guy..lol). Although, you can see and read my thoughts on Janko, I’m much higher on him than many Pens fans. And I think it’s warranted too and u can read why in my last post!! But also like I said, who will play 2nd line Center if Crosby/Malkin miss time..?? Janko definitely isn’t a 2nd line Center. And like JR and Sully, I want to see McCann with a full, stable, consistent year playing just the LW. And just worry about putting the puck in the net on offense like he’s good at. Get that 19 goal year and 14 goal year up to 20 plus goals. And yes, last year he would have had more than 35 points and probably had another 19 goal season instead of 14 if it wasn’t a crazy year. So we do need that player like Granlund/Haula/C.Wilson to slide up to that 2nd line Center Incase Crosby/Malkin miss any time!!