Add a 5th

So...
Maatta- 180GP 58points at a .32 points per game
Hamilton- 276GP 132 points at a .48 points per game
If you are into advance stats Hamilton has much better ones.

Last 5 years:
Elliott- 192 games: .922sv% 2.09 GAA
Fleury- 297 games: .917sv% 2.36 GAA

Why would the flames do this? Are people that caught up in Elliott's bad start?

Also Calgary would be adding 41.73 mil total to they pay roll over these contracts while pens only add 31.25 mil. this is a god awful deal for the flames and a steal for the pens.

Sqm918. We have had "arguments" before over player value but really don't see the justification in the Flamed and Junior GMs analysis.

Flamed: Either the trades is good or bad, or somewhere in between. But to write, "Add a 5th" sways the trade either way......C'mon grow up. Oh, and who gets the 5th? Or haven't you thought that out yet?

JuniorGM Thirteen scoring points in a year, shouldn't make a heck of lot difference if a Dman either Hamilton or Maatta is the better player. Certainly for the cap difference maybe Maatta is better value. And what has the overpriced Hamilton done to really help the Flames. One playoff round win? One thing having Fleury on the team would bring Calgary is goalie certainty for the next almost three years. Elliot is a UFA so maybe the process of finding goalie starts all over again for the Flames. Just sounds like we have have two Flames satisfied with the less than middling status quo.

13 points a year is huge. Its the difference between the 2nd and 1st pair on average. Also Maatta has had much more scoring talent around him and still scores less. I would quote advance stats but most people on here view them as voodoo so I won't bother. Over Maatta's last 80 NHL games he has preformed as a 3rd pair dmen. Every fan over values their own players. I could care less about either of these teams but I wouldn`t give up that much for Maatta. He is still treading on his rookie season in which he was shelter in a big way and hasn`t come close to duplicating it.

That's all situations. Even strength it's .929 for Elliott and .926 for Fleury (2012/13 through 2015/16 so I'm not even including Elliott's poor start this year). On the PK they're still similar with Fleury at .900 sv% to Elliot's .895. Fleury has almost 60% more 4v5 TOI than Elliott to boot.

They are not drastically different from each other in terms of performance. But Fleury has established that he can be a team's #1 goalie and sustain those numbers. This is Elliott's chance to do so and he hasn't capitalized on it yet.

That total payroll figure doesn't account for the difference in term. And cost certainty has its own appeal to certain teams. Not saying the Flames are one; just that this isn't a complete negative the way you're portraying it. Also, does anyone actually think about contracts in those terms? Teams will be paying that money to somebody. Better question is does their performance merit being paid that amount.

Teams like the Jets, Ducks, Preds, Yotes, Canes are all teams that care about the money. They care less of cap hit and more on money. Also corsica has their ev sv% last 5 yrs as .9314 elliott and .9235 Fleury. Which is a big deal.