Who has a stronger 7/8/9? Not Tampa... Washington... not Toronto... not Colorado... not Rangers. Those were the top-5 offensive teams last year.

Edmonton
Draisaitl: 1.55 P/GP
McDavid: 1.52
Yamamoto: 0.96
Nugent-Hopkins: 0.94
Kassian: 0.58
Neal: 0.56
Kahun: 0.55
Ennis: 0.53
Turris: 0.50

Tampa Bay
Kucherov: 1.25
Stamkos: 1.16
Point: 0.97
Killorn: 0.72
Cirelli: 0.65
Palat: 0.59
Coleman: 0.48
Johnson: 0.48
Gourde: 0.43

Washington
Ovechkin: 0.99
Backstrom: 0.89
Kuznetsov: 0.83
Vrana: 0.75
Oshie: 0.71
Wilson: 0.65
Eller: 0.57
Hagelin: 0.43
Panik: 0.37

Toronto
Matthews: 1.14 P/GP
Marner: 1.14
Tavares: 0.95
Nylander: 0.87
Hyman: 0.73
Mikheyev: 0.59
Thornton: 0.44
Kerfoot: 0.43
Spezza: 0.43

Colorado
MacKinnon: 1.35
Rantanen: 0.98
Landeskog: 0.81
Burakovsky: 0.78
Kadri: 0.71
Saad: 0.57
Donskoi: 0.51
Calvert: 0.50
Compher: 0.46

Rangers
Panarin: 1.38
Zibanejad: 1.32
Strome: 0.84
Kreider: 0.71
Buchnevich: 0.68
Chytil: 0.38
Kakko: 0.35
Lemieux: 0.31
Howden: 0.27

I haven't checked every team, but these are the top-5 offensive teams from last season. NYR should have Kravtsov and Lafreneiere in the lineup and Kakko should take a step forward, so they're a contender for #1 for sure. Here are the teams above ranked by top-9:

Edmonton: 7.69
Tampa Bay: 6.73
Toronto: 6.72
Colorado: 6.67
Rangers: 6.24
Washington: 6.19

Here they are again ranked by 7/8/9 scoring rates:

Edmonton: 1.58
Colorado: 1.47
Tampa Bay: 1.39
Washington: 1.37
Toronto: 1.30
Rangers: 0.93

Haha nope.

Sorry, I think you meant to put the oilers have the worst forward depth in the league. I hope. I'm worried if you actually think they have good depth,

Um... they added Turris, Kahun, Ennis, Puljujarvi, Barrie, Yamamoto (full season) and Jones (full season). No other Canadian team improved as much as the Oilers. Their forward depth is the best in the country and likely top-3 in the league.

Oilers fans are killing it today, top three in the league? Wow

Now do defensive ability
Scoring rates, good one.

Ennis played just 9 games for the Oiler last season and was a UFA in the off-season. Yamamoto played 27 games, 1/3 of a season. I'm counting them as "adds" as they will get a full season next year.

In any case, if you look at the period from December 31, 2019 (Yamamoto's 1st game) to the end of the season, you'll see that the Oilers were in fact THE #1 TEAM IN THE LEAGUE for offense, tied with Philadelphia. Since then they added Ennis, Kahun, Turris, Barrie and Puljujarvi. You can sneer all you want, but you're just ignoring plain facts.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/teams?reportType=game&dateFrom=2019-12-31&dateTo=2020-03-11&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=goalsForPerGame&page=0&pageSize=50

Now do defensive ability
Scoring rates, good one.

Lost the argument so now you're moving the goalposts. Loser.

If you don't cheery pick you stats and use the whole year, the oilers were 14th in goals for for the 2019-20 season (leafs were 3rd might I add). As for Ennis and Yamamoto, whatever. They were there for a bit, I wouldn't count them as adds, but they aren't too good anyway. If you think you can cheery pick stats like this, then you are ignoring plain facts.

Not sure how you separate "forwards" defensive ability from defensemen or goaltending, but here are the team stats from last season:

Toronto: 3.17 GA/GP (26th in the league)
Edmonton: 3.03 GA/GP (15th)

Pot, meet kettle.

Not sure how you separate "forwards" defensive ability from defensemen or goaltending, but here are the team stats from last season:

Toronto: 3.17 GA/GP (26th in the league)
Edmonton: 3.03 GA/GP (15th)

Pot, meet kettle.

Thats not how moving goal posts works hoss. You said deepest, then you focused only on scoring rates, ignoring a full half the game. You also ignored literally all context in regards to the scoring rates.
So tell me chuckles, are all theae guys gonna play with mcdavid and dre? On the power play? No they arnt, they wont even likely get all the minuites they got last year, so not only will they not all reach the scoring rates they did last year for various reasons, they still suck at defense.
Try again, but dont be so mad online about it

How much time did Turris, Kahun, Ennis and Puljujarvi play with McDavid and Draisaitl last year? You just used an argument that completely disproved your point LMAO.

Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Toronto was 26th in the league at keeping the puck out of the net, Edmonton was 15th.

Haha I guess a lot of people are going to be surprised when oilers tear threw Canadian division. I really don’t understand how they aren’t 1st. Easily the best of the bunch even remove bias opinion and stick to common sense oilers roster is deeper than last year when they were the best Canadian team.

My goodness you're reading comprehension is phenomenal. So, if all the new guys are playing mcdavid and drai or on the power play, what about the old guys?
See how that works? Crazy, right?

but thier goaltending is **** and defence is bad AND without Klefbolm

I'm going to guess the splits end up something like this:

Hellebuyck + Brossoit 80/20 = .917
Markstrom + Rittich 70/30 = .915
Price + Allen 70/30 = .914
Koskinen + Smith 60/40 = .911
Andersen + Campbell 70/30 = .908
Demko + Holtby 50/50 = .901
Murray + Anderson 60/40 = .900

Their goaltending is above average for the division. The loss of Klefbom doesn't change the defensive ability much - he wasn't been nearly as good last year due to his shoulder issues. They'll be league average defensively again.

price-allen will be 55-45

price-allen will be 55-45

I'm not sure that's a good thing. Allen was .905 / .906 two and three years ago when given more than ~30% of the starts. But I guess that's about where Price has been too, so maybe there's nothing wrong with it. We'll see.

I posted their numbers from last year when none of the additions played with McDavid or Draisaitl. Together they're good enough to be the best offensive team in the league. I'm not sure how you can't get that.

Lets pretend they are, they'll still be a bottom 5 defensive team and it wont matter

Just looked it up, over the past 3 years Price has been .910 while Allen has been .909... so maybe the .914 total I have above is a tad optimistic?

You're ignoring the facts again. Edmonton is an average team defensively. They finished 15th in GA/GP.

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Who has a stronger 7/8/9? Not Tampa... Washington... not Toronto... not Colorado... not Rangers. Those were the top-5 offensive teams last year.

Edmonton
Draisaitl: 1.55 P/GP
McDavid: 1.52
Yamamoto: 0.96
Nugent-Hopkins: 0.94
Kassian: 0.58
Neal: 0.56
Kahun: 0.55
Ennis: 0.53
Turris: 0.50

Tampa Bay
Kucherov: 1.25
Stamkos: 1.16
Point: 0.97
Killorn: 0.72
Cirelli: 0.65
Palat: 0.59
Coleman: 0.48
Johnson: 0.48
Gourde: 0.43

Washington
Ovechkin: 0.99
Backstrom: 0.89
Kuznetsov: 0.83
Vrana: 0.75
Oshie: 0.71
Wilson: 0.65
Eller: 0.57
Hagelin: 0.43
Panik: 0.37

Toronto
Matthews: 1.14 P/GP
Marner: 1.14
Tavares: 0.95
Nylander: 0.87
Hyman: 0.73
Mikheyev: 0.59
Thornton: 0.44
Kerfoot: 0.43
Spezza: 0.43

Colorado
MacKinnon: 1.35
Rantanen: 0.98
Landeskog: 0.81
Burakovsky: 0.78
Kadri: 0.71
Saad: 0.57
Donskoi: 0.51
Calvert: 0.50
Compher: 0.46

Rangers
Panarin: 1.38
Zibanejad: 1.32
Strome: 0.84
Kreider: 0.71
Buchnevich: 0.68
Chytil: 0.38
Kakko: 0.35
Lemieux: 0.31
Howden: 0.27

I haven't checked every team, but these are the top-5 offensive teams from last season. NYR should have Kravtsov and Lafreneiere in the lineup and Kakko should take a step forward, so they're a contender for #1 for sure. Here are the teams above ranked by top-9:

Edmonton: 7.69
Tampa Bay: 6.73
Toronto: 6.72
Colorado: 6.67
Rangers: 6.24
Washington: 6.19

Here they are again ranked by 7/8/9 scoring rates:

Edmonton: 1.58
Colorado: 1.47
Tampa Bay: 1.39
Washington: 1.37
Toronto: 1.30
Rangers: 0.93

Clueless Leafs fan. What else is new? Read posts #24 and 25 and weep.