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Rutherford gonna Rutherford

Created by: mhockey91
Initial Creation Date: Dec 19, 2020
Published: Dec 19, 2020 at 5:29
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
This is assuming hall doesn’t light the lamp on Buffalo
BUF
  1. Légaré, Nathan
  2. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Calle Clang
PIT
    Anywhere
    ANA
    1. Ceci, Cody
    Buyouts
    • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
    Buried
    • Colton Sceviour: $125,000 ($1,200,000)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    WSH
    ANA
    2022
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    2023
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$77,106,842$0$850,000$4,393,158
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PIT
    Guentzel, Jake
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    PIT
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    $3,200,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Rust, Bryan
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Zucker, Jason
    $5,500,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    McCann, Jared
    $2,940,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    PIT
    Tanev, Brandon
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Jankowski, Mark
    $700,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Blueger, Teddy
    $750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PIT
    Dumoulin, Brian
    $4,100,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Letang, Kris
    $7,250,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Jarry, Tristan
    $3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    PIT
    Pettersson, Marcus
    $4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 5
    PIT
    Marino, John
    $925,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    PIT
    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Matheson, Michael
    $4,875,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    PIT
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PIT
    Riikola, Juuso
    $1,150,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    PIT
    Rodrigues, Evan
    $700,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1

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    Dec 19, 2020 at 5:33
    #1
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    Even if we are outta the playoff race,
    we might hang on to Hall to try & sign him

    If we did move him:
    Your trade offer is likely getting beat....
    bc Hall is most likely gonna light it up with Eichel
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    Dec 19, 2020 at 5:36
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    Quoting: Jdfitz77
    Even if we are outta the playoff race,
    we might hang on to Hall to try & sign him

    If we did move him:
    Your trade offer is likely getting beat....
    bc Hall is most likely gonna light it up with Eichel


    If sabres suck he probably won’t wanna stay. Even if Hall is producing at around a PPG pace I don’t see it being a sellers market this year. I think it will be very much a buyers market
    Dec 19, 2020 at 5:38
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    Quoting: Jdfitz77
    Even if we are outta the playoff race,
    we might hang on to Hall to try & sign him

    If we did move him:
    Your trade offer is likely getting beat....
    bc Hall is most likely gonna light it up with Eichel


    Hall averages 75 points every 82 games. Considering he’s mostly played on bad teams with non-elite centres like Gagner, Zajac & Soderberg, that’s actually incredible. Can’t wait to see him play alongside Eichel.
    Dec 19, 2020 at 5:40
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Hall averages 75 points every 82 games. Considering he’s mostly played on bad teams with non-elite centres like Gagner, Zajac & Soderberg, that’s actually incredible. Can’t wait to see him play alongside Eichel.


    Yeah he should do well there. I wish Pens made a run at hall over Zucker last year.
    Dec 19, 2020 at 5:42
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    Yeah he should do well there. I wish Pens made a run at hall over Zucker last year.


    Yeah I agree. Zucker’s a good player with a lower cap hit but Hall’s a superstar.
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    Dec 19, 2020 at 5:56
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    I heff to be mad...
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    Overpayy
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    Dec 19, 2020 at 6:42
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    Yeah he should do well there. I wish Pens made a run at hall over Zucker last year.


    Honestly I don't think Hall would have cost more than yall paid for Zucker
    Dec 19, 2020 at 7:14
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    Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
    Honestly I don't think Hall would have cost more than yall paid for Zucker


    I still like the Zucker trade, he’s got term and on a reasonable contract. Way better than a rental
    Dec 19, 2020 at 7:37
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    I don't even think the penguins will be trade deadline players. Their division is just brutal and they are slow starters. We're going to be dogging it out for 3rd place or a WC because I think WSH will get off to a fast start as usual and BOS is probably right behind them. This team can barely get moving in the beginning of the season. A shortened season is going to really hurt them.
    Dec 19, 2020 at 7:55
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    Quoting: pharrow
    I don't even think the penguins will be trade deadline players. Their division is just brutal and they are slow starters. We're going to be dogging it out for 3rd place or a WC because I think WSH will get off to a fast start as usual and BOS is probably right behind them. This team can barely get moving in the beginning of the season. A shortened season is going to really hurt them.


    I mean we were either 1st / 2nd in the metro this past season after 56 games and then we hit that huge cold streak before the COVID pause, despite all the injuries. Pens in the past have started slow, (ie 2015/16) but I don’t think it’s fair to say pens are “slow starters”. Just depends on the year I guess, as with any team.

    If any team is gonna have a slow start it’s Boston without Pasta and Marchand
    Dec 19, 2020 at 8:49
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    Sabres accept. Great offer.
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    Dec 19, 2020 at 9:10
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    I mean we were either 1st / 2nd in the metro this past season after 56 games and then we hit that huge cold streak before the COVID pause, despite all the injuries. Pens in the past have started slow, (ie 2015/16) but I don’t think it’s fair to say pens are “slow starters”. Just depends on the year I guess, as with any team.

    If any team is gonna have a slow start it’s Boston without Pasta and Marchand


    i mean it's kind of the same thing with last season, when they came back. You knew it was going to be bad. I had even made comments on it. They suck at the beginning of the year. They play catch up. But with only 56 games it's gonna be much harder to do that, especially in a division that smells blood.
    I'm not sure what the deal with Pasta and Marchand is. I've heard they would be available. I'm not claiming to know either way. Obviously if they aren't that puts them in a bad spot.

    I think this team is use to not playing hard at the beginning and trying to "time" their peak. They go soft early because it's a "long season" and try to make sure they are hitting strong at the end.
    But that just isn't gonna cut it this year. Much like last season. They came back, they were kind of like zombies out there. There was not much life. I think a lot of people commented on that about their playoff performance. Counting on this team, which is basically the same players, coming out strong early and maintaining it, is wishful thinking.
    I just don't see them starting strong, first week or two, ok maybe but then watch out. They could be dug into a hole they can't get out of because we know when WSH and BOS start collecting points they aren't letting up. If a team like Philly plays well early it could be really bad news.
    Last year is kind of a good example. November was brutal. If we have a month of hockey like that, we are looking at WC at best. Too hard of a division and a lot of questions on depth etc. It's not like we can expect much fixing this. By the time you realize this ain't it you are gonna be screwed. I think that's why GMJR is like, don't expect many trades, we go in with what we have. I mean could you imagine we get a start like last season, the trade deadline is like right there and they've been racking up loses for a month. There is no way in hell he pulls the trigger on a major trade. He'd get run out of town if it was a tire fire.
    Dec 19, 2020 at 10:03
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Hall averages 75 points every 82 games. Considering he’s mostly played on bad teams with non-elite centres like Gagner, Zajac & Soderberg, that’s actually incredible. Can’t wait to see him play alongside Eichel.


    Sucks no Sabres vs Leafs games this year though
    Stupid Covid
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    Dec 19, 2020 at 10:03
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    If sabres suck he probably won’t wanna stay. Even if Hall is producing at around a PPG pace I don’t see it being a sellers market this year. I think it will be very much a buyers market


    Hall would most likely be the best player available though
    Many teams will want him
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    Dec 19, 2020 at 10:07
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    Quoting: Jdfitz77
    Hall would most likely be the best player available though
    Many teams will want him


    That is also a good point
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