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Shaking up the bottom 6

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Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2021
Published: Jan. 9, 2021
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2$1,525,000
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PHI
  1. Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
  2. 2021 5th round pick (COL)
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  1. Jost, Tyson
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (COL)
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2021
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2022
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21$81,500,000$78,346,429$0$5,000,000$3,153,571
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
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C, RW
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RW, LW
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
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$1,525,000$1,525,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,075,000$1,075,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.
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The combo moves of Roslovic in Jost out and Virtanen out and Donskoi out isnt too bad, Avs do lose some defensively ability there bc but Roslovic has more offensive upside than Jost and Virtanen can bring more of a heavy hockey game than Donskoi

Its interesting. However IMO if the Avs did something like this, you play Kaut by moving Bellemare. You need his 2way game to make sure you didnt create too much of a defensively liability bottom 6
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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PHI would probably rather have Kub
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: coga16
The combo moves of Roslovic in Jost out and Virtanen out and Donskoi out isnt too bad, Avs do lose some defensively ability there bc but Roslovic has more offensive upside than Jost and Virtanen can bring more of a heavy hockey game than Donskoi

Its interesting

I agree, the defensively ability does go down, but the bottom 6 gets younger and faster. And Calvert is still there so he can provide some defense
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:15 a.m.
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Roslovic is complaining about only getting 3rd line minutes in Winnipeg imagine how unhappy he’ll be with 4th line time. And it takes more than 1.5 to get him signed
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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Roslovic is complaining about only getting 3rd line minutes in Winnipeg imagine how unhappy he’ll be with 4th line time


True but he needs to learn to accept his role and playing on Colorado would allow him to learn from greats like Mackinnon.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
Roslovic is complaining about only getting 3rd line minutes in Winnipeg imagine how unhappy he’ll be with 4th line time. And it takes more than 1.5 to get him signed

Yes but the argument would be he would be going to a better team in Colorado that have a better chance to win the Stanley Cup
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
True but he needs to learn to accept his role and playing on Colorado would allow him to learn from greats like Mackinnon.

Good luck with that!
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:19 a.m.
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Yes but the argument would be he would be going to a better team in Colorado that have a better chance to win the Stanley Cup

You’re assuming he’s a team first guy and with what’s going on in Winnipeg I don’t see that
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
You’re assuming he’s a team first guy and with what’s going on in Winnipeg I don’t see that

And plus if he wants a second line role, than he’s out of luck because. One: Not many teams have space for him as a second line center. Two: If he does find a team that has a second line center spot open it’s probably not a very good team.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Pond_Duck
And plus if he wants a second line role, than he’s out of luck because. One: Not many teams have space for him as a second line center. Two: If he does find a team that has a second line center spot open it’s probably not a very good team.

I don’t disagree but do you add a malcontent to that team that’s not a big upgrade
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:27 a.m.
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i'd be ok with this. it's a lot to shake up though,
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
Roslovic is complaining about only getting 3rd line minutes in Winnipeg imagine how unhappy he’ll be with 4th line time. And it takes more than 1.5 to get him signed


Actually his complaint is usage, he prefers to play center but Maurice won't give him that chance, I'm sure he'd be fine with playing 3C somewhere.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Actually his complaint is usage, he prefers to play center but Maurice won't give him that chance, I'm sure he'd be fine with playing 3C somewhere.

But 4c? And only 1.5 mil? Idts
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
But 4c?


I don't think he'd like that very much, not too many 4th lines get much more then 10 minutes a night, he'd be fine with 3C but probably not 4C.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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And why does Colorado trade for a malcontent that’s not a major upgrade I just don’t see that as being a rational idea.
Jan. 9, 2021 at 11:49 a.m.
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canucks decline not sure why we would make that trade.jake will break out this season.in my opinion.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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canucks decline not sure why we would make that trade.jake will break out this season.in my opinion.


Jakes 24 and has played close to 300 NHL games...probably a little more to give but at this point he is pretty much what he is, a 20g 40-45pt player. Dont think he just blossoms into a perennial 60 point guy.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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Jakes 24 and has played close to 300 NHL games...probably a little more to give but at this point he is pretty much what he is, a 20g 40-45pt player. Dont think he just blossoms into a perennial 60 point guy.


as a true canucks fan.i have watched jake since jr hockey.He will turn some heads this year. we like his heavy game, and he was never projected to be a perrnnial 60 point guy. in my opinion.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Jakes 24 and has played close to 300 NHL games...probably a little more to give but at this point he is pretty much what he is, a 20g 40-45pt player. Dont think he just blossoms into a perennial 60 point guy.


and jost is looking like a dud so far. don't see why vancouver would make that trade.
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Jan. 9, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
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The Avs bottom 6 is actually rated pretty highly overall. While you could hope for a better 3C than JT (he's better at wing), they are by no means poor. What hurt the Avs last year (aside from all the injuries) was bad strategy on special teams and Dallas figured out how to stymie their first pass out of the zone in that series pretty well. So, with some tweaks by the coaches and some better luck with injuries, they should be better this year.
 
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