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Ugh okay I will jump on Dubois trade wagon

Created by: Habs4ever
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 22, 2021
Published: Jan. 22, 2021
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I don't jump on these big name trades because most times they never happen. But after seeing Dubois get less than 4 minutes of ice time, things are going to explode over there, if not already. The problem is 20 teams are probably contacting Columbus. But if MTL was involved, I would put up Danault (with agreed extension to not lose him after Columbus' season), a good prospect and a 2nd round pick. I would also add Armia, although he is now injured.
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  1. Armia, Joel ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Danault, Phillip
  3. Struble, Jayden
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
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20$81,500,000$73,697,976$0$3,137,500$7,802,024
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
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Jan. 22, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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completely fair now that Torts destroyed his value
Jan. 22, 2021 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: ColeSmallfield
completely fair now that Torts destroyed his value


Ya there’s something definitely going on between those two. The players in return (danault & Armia) contribute right away, although not sure of armia’s injury. Struble is a good D prospect, plus 2 picks and retained salary.
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Jan. 22, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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Ya there’s something definitely going on between those two. The players in return (danault & Armia) contribute right away, although not sure of armia’s injury. Struble is a good D prospect, plus 2 picks and retained salary.


yup
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Jan. 22, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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As much as I'd love to see Dubois in a Habs jersey.....can MTL afford to keep Dubois, Suzuki, and KK with salary cap past this season? Next year KK is an RFA and Suzuki the year after.

If Dubois is looking for $7-8m
KK might get low-balled with a bridge...
Suzuki will be looking for (and may deserve) something big and long term

Bergevin will have to dump a fair bit of salary...i.e. Anderson/Toffoli/Edmunson/Tatar

Anyone wanna post a line up for 2022-23 with Dubois, KK, and Suzuki? (even though I'd be surprised if CLB accepted Danault in a trade for Dubois)

The life lesson here...have a plan, and stick to it. Suzuki-KK-Danault-Evans/Poehling ---- that could be a GREAT spine for the Habs for the next 5-7years --- while still keeping most of the new additions of this year.
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Jan. 22, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: ColeSmallfield
completely fair now that Torts destroyed his value


tears of joy The fact that people think like this is beyond me. "EHHHHH! Torts glued PLD to the bench for a game! He's absolutely worthless now!!!"

Screw the fact that he's a 22 year old bonified 1C.
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Jan. 22, 2021 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: juuice
As much as I'd love to see Dubois in a Habs jersey.....can MTL afford to keep Dubois, Suzuki, and KK with salary cap past this season? Next year KK is an RFA and Suzuki the year after.

If Dubois is looking for $7-8m
KK might get low-balled with a bridge...
Suzuki will be looking for (and may deserve) something big and long term

Bergevin will have to dump a fair bit of salary...i.e. Anderson/Toffoli/Edmunson/Tatar

Anyone wanna post a line up for 2022-23 with Dubois, KK, and Suzuki? (even though I'd be surprised if CLB accepted Danault in a trade for Dubois)

The life lesson here...have a plan, and stick to it. Suzuki-KK-Danault-Evans/Poehling ---- that could be a GREAT spine for the Habs for the next 5-7years --- while still keeping most of the new additions of this year.


I actually agree with you which is why I dislike jumping on these things every time a good player becomes available. But when I saw Dubois on the bench the entire 2,3 & ot, I thought this is going to get ugly.

Dubois is signed for two years. He’s not in the 7,8 million category, At least not yet. Hypothetically if danault & Armia go, they replace Dubois’s. Habs have $15 million in cap space next season. So it is possible. But I agree the centre’s we finally have are good and going to get better.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Habs4ever
I actually agree with you which is why I dislike jumping on these things every time a good player becomes available. But when I saw Dubois on the bench the entire 2,3 & ot, I thought this is going to get ugly.

Dubois is signed for two years. He’s not in the 7,8 million category, At least not yet. Hypothetically if danault & Armia go, they replace Dubois’s. Habs have $15 million in cap space next season. So it is possible. But I agree the centre’s we finally have are good and going to get better.


Hey, A logical conversation! Don’t see too many of those here. It definitely appreciated.

I know Dubois is at $5m for this year and next, but when that bridge is up, realistic expectation afterwards? Prolly in the $7-8m range minimum unless he bombs.

The only way I think he could fit fit the future, would be if the Habs trade KK or Suzuki for him. I doubt most people would trade Suzuki, and I'm not fully sold that he's going to be better than KK in the long term....but id be silly to not consider it at least.
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:01 p.m.
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tears of joy The fact that people think like this is beyond me. "EHHHHH! Torts glued PLD to the bench for a game! He's absolutely worthless now!!!"

Screw the fact that he's a 22 year old bonified 1C.


bonified 2C with on a good team
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.
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bonified 2C with on a good team


I mean, if he goes to the Habs, he’d be 1C, since he’s better than Danault, Suzuki and KK...unless you don’t think they’re a good team?
Jan. 22, 2021 at 10:24 p.m.
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I mean, if he goes to the Habs, he’d be 1C, since he’s better than Danault, Suzuki and KK...unless you don’t think they’re a good team?


no he isnt. hes the 3 or 4th line C on Montreal unless Danault is going the other way because KK and Suzuki are NOT GOING and in the top 9
Jan. 23, 2021 at 12:59 p.m.
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Hey, A logical conversation! Don’t see too many of those here. It definitely appreciated.

I know Dubois is at $5m for this year and next, but when that bridge is up, realistic expectation afterwards? Prolly in the $7-8m range minimum unless he bombs.

The only way I think he could fit fit the future, would be if the Habs trade KK or Suzuki for him. I doubt most people would trade Suzuki, and I'm not fully sold that he's going to be better than KK in the long term....but id be silly to not consider it at least.


mute point now as I'm sure you have heard Dubois is now a Jet. His dad is the Assistant with the Manitoba Moose in the AHL. The Head Coach Pascal Vincent is a really good friend of mine. We have known each other for 22 years. The whole playing lazy and not trying hard was orchestrated to force a trade.
 
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