Nah, Chia would extend Russell and trade Yamamoto or Bouchard for DeAngelo

People always overreact to him. He wasn’t bad

I’d sooner roll with the current defence they can get it done. They also need to play Bouchard. I will always defend my trade of eberle for strome but strome for spooner might have been a bit of an impatient maneuver.

He is definitely that bad lol

Umm i think you need to do a little homework bud?

His trades suck but look who he drafted. Everyone thought Sam Bennet would go before Drai, sure Pulju was bad but it was a slam dunk at the time. And grabbing Jones and Bear in the late rounds was not bad at all. He took Yamamoto, a ppg guy at 22. He drafted Pastrnak at 25, John Marino in the 6th round, Marchand in the third and Matt Grzelyk. Sure trading hall for Larson is terrible and he doesn’t think to carefully but he has one of the best drafting records in the league. Not to mention he won the bruins a cup. There’s a reason people still want to hire him.

Russels already been extended by Holland

He wasn't bad, he was TERRIBLE.

Chiarelli joined the Oilers in April 2015, to think he magically had something to do with the Draisaitl pick in 2014 is not reasonable. He also had zero impact on the picks made in 2015 - the 1st was a no-brainer and the depth picks are all on the scouts, not the GM. The impact he had on the 2015 draft was negative: he traded the Barzal pick and a high 2nd (#33) for a 2nd pairing AHL defenseman - probably the worst trade in the entire NHL in the past 30 years.

While he may have had a better draft record than previous Oilers GMs, his draft record in Edmonton was average at best. He really only had influence over 3 drafts: 2016, 2017 and 2018 in Edmonton. Really only the 1st round picks from those years have had any impact, and none of those guys have had a LOT of impact.

2016
1. Puljujarvi - seems to be turning out finally, 5 years later, after Chiarelli did his best to ruin him
2. Benson - may possibly become a bottom-6 guy at some point in his career, Oilers fans were all screaming for McDavid's junior teammate DeBrincat who was still on the board. Huge miss by Chiarelli
3. Niemelainen - career AHLer
3. Cairns - not even that
3. Berglund - career SHLer
5. Wells - flop
5. McPhee - nothingburger
6. Rasanen - may get an AHL contract
7. Desharnais - zero
He had 9 picks and came out with 1 NHLer, and overpaid for him based on draft capital - mostly by screwing up his development. Final Grade: D-

2017
1. Yamamoto - full value for #22 pick, his scoring pace is 0.57 P/GP so far. Chiarelli had him in the NHL at 18 (!!), could've screwed up his development too but Kailer perservered, credit to him. Would likely go 10 spots higher in a redraft
3. Skinner - Hasn't proven himself in the AHL yet, isn't starter material but maybe he can work himself into an NHL backup 5 years down the road
3. Samorukov - Massive improvement since being drafted, he's emerging in the KHL as a premier shutdown guy. Should make the Oilers roster out of camp next fall. Would go in the 1st round in a redraft
4. Safin - stalled completely
5. Maksimov - struggling to get his footing in the KHL this year after an unimpressive AHL rookie season. Played in the VHL too, but he's too good for that league. Could become a bottom-6 NHLer in the future which is good considering draft position
6. Brind'Amour - no making an impact in NCAA, not a prospect
7. Kemp - developed into a shutdown guy whose skating could preclude him from an NHL career. Could make it as a 3rd pairing guy, but won't play above that IMO. AHL for the foreseeable future
This was a decent draft, at least NHL average. Yamamoto was a hit and there's a few guys here that could become bottom-of-the-roster types, with Samorukov possibly having a higher ceiling. Final Grade: B

2018
1. Bouchard - looks like he's in the NHL to stay now, he should be full value for #10 overall. It was between him and Dobson, I'm not sure which will be better but both will be good NHL players
2. McLeod - not enough offense to play in the top-6, this was obvious at the time of the draft. Could play as high as 3C, but not a top-6 type
2. Rodrigue - seems to be tracking well, should spend a couple of years in AHL developing. Probably not starter material, the goalie taken two picks later is one of the top prospects in the league
6. Kesselring - impressive tools, needs to develop the toolbox. Meh play in the NCAA so far, needs to show real progress over the next 2 years to get a sniff at an NHL contract. This is good for the draft position, but not a player that can be projected as an NHLer at this time
7. Siikanen - zero
Got a player at the top, but that should be expected when you're picking at #10. None of the others are tracking as top-6/top-4/1G, although to be fair there's still some development time. Final Grade: C

Overall, Chiarelli's drafts in Edmonton are about league average. He gets a complimentary player in the 1st round and then nabs a few bottom-6 types later on. Nothing game-breaking here, just average stuff.

Ok- lets compare to the last three gms (not listing every draft choice only the ones with NHL time)
MacTavish
2013 and 2014
Drafted three nhlers
Draisaitl
Legesson
Nurse

No one else even came close to the AHL (maybe Slepyshev)

Tambellini
2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
2012
Yakupov(!)
Khaira
No one else was close
2011
RNH- great but in hindsight missed out
Klefbom- solid
Drafted Toby Reider
2010
Hall- nice but clear cut choice
Pitlick- 4th liner at best
2009
Only Paajarvi made the NHL and we know how he turned out

Kevin Lowe
2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
2008
Eberle- solid for the spot he was taken
2007
Gagner- ok middle sixer but taken at 6 was a huge miss
Riley Nash- really good third liner for Boston and can play all three forward positions. Never played for oilers
2006
Jeff Petry- really good fro round two. I miss him
Theo Peckham- ok bottom pair guy
2005
Andrew Cogliano- played for some bad teams and ok
2004
Devan Dubnyk- decent 1b goalie
Rob Schremp- fun for 5 seconds
2003
Took Marc-Antoinne Pouliot in the first round
Kyle Brodziak in the 8th round
2002
Jesse Niinimaki in the first round
Jeff Deslauriers
Jarret Stoll
2001
Ales Hemsky- really great
Doug Lynch
2000
Only player of note is Brad Winchester
Everyone else doesn’t even have a file on capfriendly

Look up some of these drafts- they’re really bad for the oilers. Maybe a few gems in the second round but thats about it. Most of the guys they drafted i cant even pronounce the names much less heard of them.

I think Chiarelli did pretty well compared to the last three GMs. An argument can be made for Kevin Lowe because his trades were ok and he took them on the cup run. If you also take into account Chias drafting in Boston- there are some misses like Zach Hamill in the first round but he did pretty well.

His drafting is above average at best but not great.

Your point is...?

I literally wrote "... he may have had a better draft record than previous Oilers GMs, his draft record in Edmonton was average at best." I'm not denying that his drafting was an upgrade over many previous management teams, but it's nothing to write home about. League average, I called it.

BUT, none of the previous GM's made the horrific trades Chiarelli did, which cost the team a clear chance at a dynasty. His overall record as a GM in Edmonton is TERRIBLE. If he has done NOTHING AT ALL the team would be better today than it is.

I can't believe you haven't acknowledged this error at all, even after I pointed it out.

Look at it this way. The Oilers core players are McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Nurse, and maybe Klefbom. How many of these were drafted by Chiarelli? Just McDavid, who Chiarelli can't take credit for anyhow: he didn't join the team until AFTER the draft lottery determined that the Oilers would select 1st overall. Picking McDavid was a no-brainer - even Chiarelli couldn't screw that up.

Seriously? You said he gets too much flak and isn't that bad. I said he is bad. You rebuked with his draft history. I notes that his draft history isn't that good actually.

Sorry lol I forgot to throw that in. Extra points to MacTavish for that pick.

Everyone on this site treats him like a joke and a meme. Did he make some of the worst trades in the modern era?` of course, but there’s a reason that he’s held the jobs he has and I’m trying to shed light on that.