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Does this make sense

Created by: hwjw
Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2021
Published: Feb. 10, 2021
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Jets could use a top 6 winger now and Pit could use a RD. Does it make sense for both/either team?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,125,000
2$1,750,000
3$3,500,000
2$1,800,000
1$850,000
Trades
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WPG
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
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PIT
  1. Pionk, Neal [RFA Rights]
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WPG
    Pick so Seattle takes him
    PIT
    1. Niku, Sami
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (CBJ)
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$77,079,646$145,122$1,157,500$4,420,354

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $7,142,857$7,142,857
    LW
    UFA - 5
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    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $8,250,000$8,250,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    C
    UFA - 5
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    $900,000$900,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $725,000$725,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $850,000$850,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 7
    $7,125,000$7,125,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
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    $6,166,667$6,166,667
    G
    UFA - 3
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    $863,333$863,333
    LD
    RFA - 3
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $900,000$900,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    $5,291,667$5,291,667
    C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
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    $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.
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    Why trade Pionk? Hasn't he played well for the Jets? At least I thought he has.
    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:20 p.m.
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    Why trade Pionk? Hasn't he played well for the Jets? At least I thought he has.


    He's been the Jets best dman since he arrived.
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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    Why trade Pionk? Hasn't he played well for the Jets? At least I thought he has.


    He’s been fine. Certainly no real complaints. This would only make sense if they could sign a stud like Hamilton.
    But both him and DeMelo are just *fine*. In an ideal world, the Jets have a top tier dMan who can eat minutes and also run PP1.
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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    Yea hes been good the jets arnt dumping dmen
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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    He’s been fine. Certainly no real complaints. This would only make sense if they could sign a stud like Hamilton.
    But both him and DeMelo are just *fine*. In an ideal world, the Jets have a top tier dMan who can eat minutes and also run PP1.


    I agree with this. Personally I’d rather see demelo moved if we do land a guy like Hamilton. Morrissey, Samberg, Forbort(if resigned), Poolman and Stanley all play a defensive style game. We don’t necessarily need demelo. The bigger question is what do we do with Morrissey in 2 years when Heinola is hopefully ready for top pair time, samberg has made a push into the top 4, Stanley looks like he’s going to be a lock for top 6 for years to come to. Our left side will be really log jammed. We’ll need to make a decision to move someone. I think Morrissey becomes the odd man out.
    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:41 p.m.
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    I agree with this. Personally I’d rather see demelo moved if we do land a guy like Hamilton. Morrissey, Samberg, Forbort(if resigned), Poolman and Stanley all play a defensive style game. We don’t necessarily need demelo. The bigger question is what do we do with Morrissey in 2 years when Heinola is hopefully ready for top pair time, samberg has made a push into the top 4, Stanley looks like he’s going to be a lock for top 6 for years to come to. Our left side will be really log jammed. We’ll need to make a decision to move someone. I think Morrissey becomes the odd man out.


    Has DeMelo not fit in? I'm curious because he was supposedly the answer to alot of teams' need at the TDL at RHD.

    Some people claim he was/is a first pair guy. So he hasn't been that?
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:46 p.m.
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    I agree with this. Personally I’d rather see demelo moved if we do land a guy like Hamilton. Morrissey, Samberg, Forbort(if resigned), Poolman and Stanley all play a defensive style game. We don’t necessarily need demelo. The bigger question is what do we do with Morrissey in 2 years when Heinola is hopefully ready for top pair time, samberg has made a push into the top 4, Stanley looks like he’s going to be a lock for top 6 for years to come to. Our left side will be really log jammed. We’ll need to make a decision to move someone. I think Morrissey becomes the odd man out.


    Interesting. The reason I went with Pionk to go was due to Hamilton because they're both offensively minded so I figured DH would be a good upgrade there. Then you have a top pair in DH and JMO then a shutdown pair with DD and VH (or Samberg). Then that third pair could be UFA like Hamonic or Poolman comes back.
    Or, if they were able to sign a guy like David Savard, then I'd be more willing to trade DD (as they play somewhat similar styles). So then Savard/Jmo, Ville/Pionk and Samberg/ whoever.
    Man, it sure seems like it (talent wise). But TNSE is so loyal (probably to a fault in some cases) where JMo isnt going anywhere. But while he's looked off for a while now, I think it's more from his partners than anyone else. He's had countless partners since the beginning of last year (and some rather poor ones too) because they just throw anyone out there with him because of all of the trust they have for him. So I think if he were to have a stable top 4 partner on a consistent basis, I think he'd be back on track pretty quickly.
    But in regards to that logjam, I don't know how you deal with it. The Jets very well may lose a guy like Stanley to Seattle at this point tbh.
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 7:49 p.m.
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    Has DeMelo not fit in? I'm curious because he was supposedly the answer to alot of teams' need at the TDL at RHD.

    Some people claim he was/is a first pair guy. So he hasn't been that?


    DeMelo has had a tough start to the year, he missed the first 7-10 days because his wife had a baby. So he's really now starting to settle into his legs again (he played well last night). He's also been playing with Stanley who's been fine, but still a rookie so DD has had to find his footing and worry about that. He also sometimes is with Beaulieu who is a tire fire. DeMelo could make a great play in the corner to get it free to Beau and Beau would still just whack at the puck for an icing. Lol
    He also played with JMo last year, which would make him look a little better.

    A first pair guy is a stretch for him. He's a good player with great defensive instincts, but doesn't have the speed/moves with the puck that make him a top pair guy. Solid shutdown guy though, with a competent partner
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    Feb. 10, 2021 at 8:23 p.m.
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    This makes little to no sense for the penguins, who have too much depth at defense when healthy. Kapanen was brought in just this offseason and he’s been one of the brighter stories for Pittsburgh so far.

    Why do you say put needs an RD? Letang and Marino are two top 4 RDs and Ceci and Ruhwedel are two perfectly fine bottom pair options
    Feb. 10, 2021 at 8:38 p.m.
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    I would just keep pionk and sign a winger
    Feb. 11, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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    Trading Pionk would be a mistake, but if you have to deal him to get Hamilton then Im cool with it.
     
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