Edited Feb. 15, 2021 at 4:24 p.m.
Quoting: ModanoisCool
I suck at explaining stuff, so let me do so again
Parise / Fiala
Kaprizov/ Zuccarello
Foligno, Greenway
Ryan Hartman (Maybe) , / Foligno & Sturm
Winger room needed for
Matt Boldy: this year or next
Adam Beckman: 2-3 Years
This is why I was saying even with Johansson & Bonino being free agent after season, the wild continues to be stacked with wingers
Center for sure
Marco Rossi
Joel Erickson ek
Sturm? Rask? Jost? Nick Bjustad?
Rask / Sturm
Depending on moves made through trade or free agency, yes they could have room for Jost Possibly @ 3c or 4c next year, or maybe they want. Let's pretend the wild signed a Top 6 c in free agency after Expansion, or trade for one:
Trade/ free agency
Marco Rossi
Joel Erickson ek
Victor rask (if not bought out) Tyson jost
If the wild GM is true to his word, he made it clear in terms of giving young player / prospect every chance to make the team . With the Wild GM reusing to buy out Rask, don't know if he will change his mind, or not.
Quoting: ModanoisCool
Kaprizov, & Fiala are average to you?
Joel Erickson ek isn't average. Also regarding your comment, there's no room in wild top 6 winger for him maybe at best 4th line.
He isn't playing over foligno, greenway, Sturm who are all goo
If Boldy makes the team next year, there is n room for him. Also statistically wild were one of the best teams 5 on 5 scoring wise last year
Wild traded Zucker to make room for kaprizov in top 4. I get it that you have to defend your player, but if wild keep Greenway, or Boldy makes team out of training camp next year, wild top 6 is already filled.
Then Sturm, & foligno will be wild 4th line next year
As for c, it all depends on what wild does
Marco Rossi is already pencilled in to 1 or 2c depending on move wild make. Joel Erickson ek is pencilled in to 2 or 3c.
Than victor rask will be 4c. So 3c could maybe be open depending on if wild don't trade for/ sign in free agency a top 6c.
Also depending on nick bjustad season, if he's traded or resigned, he can also take up a c place. It all depends on what wild GM does. He has a habit of keeping/ trading for, & signing players he's familiar with
First off, you need to stop thinking of Jost as a center. He isn't one, but can play the position if he has to. Jost can play all three forward positions. Left Wing, Center, Right Wing. The value in acquiring him is that he is 22, solid defensively, PK's, and gives us another option at center if one of ours goes down to injury, but wouldn't normally play the center position, and will be cheaper than and cost less than Ryan Hartman on his next contract. Likely around $1.5M.
Hartman is 26 and is due a pay raise, is arbitration eligible after this season, and will likely cost around $2.5M.
Jost is just as solid defensively as Hartman is, so we lose nothing. What we gain is, a player with positional flexibility. The only thing Hartman has over Jost is that he's more of a grinder. A grit and sandpaper kind of guy if you will.
Hartman would be gone after this season, and Jost would take his place on the roster.
Status quo is therefore maintained.
Johansson, Bonino, and Bjugstad would gone and off the roster as well. That's three spots that have opened up.
The team fields 20 players on the bench at a game on any given night.
12 forwards
6 defenseman
2 goalies
Team Rosters typically have 21-23 players on them at all times. League average is 22. That means 1-3 players will be sitting in the press box at times too. They could be there for lackluster play or to be a healthy scratch and just a warm backup option should someone get hurt and could play in their place the next game out.
OR
They could be an older player being given a night off and some rest with the intent to keep them fresh during a long grueling season and save them from additional wear and tear.
Parise is 36 years old, and will be 37 next year.
Zuccarello is 33, and will be 34 next year.
Boldy is currently 19, and if he makes the team next year, he can play whenever those two are given a night off to keep them fresh on a rotational basis that would keep Boldy in the lineup.
That said, Boldy is
NOT Kaprizov. He might be ready for and make the jump to the NHL next year or he might stay in college for an additional year. Who knows. But that doesn't mean he can or will immediately jump into our top six. Kaprizov was able to do so because he has been playing professional hockey for the last five years, playing against grown men. Boldy has exactly zero years of professional hockey experience. He'll have to adjust and will have to earn his icetime.
It's not a sure thing that he makes the roster next year, nor anyone else that I wanted to bring in beyond those whose who are known capable NHL caliber players.
That goes for Rossi, Frost, Boldy, Addison, Menell, Belpedio or any other prospect. If they make the team, it's because they earned the right to be on it, and it will be over and at the expense of, someone else, the roster will sort itself out accordingly because of that.
No team or GM will ever concern themselves with roster spots and decisions for them for prospects who're 2+ years away. I promise you Guerin isn't sitting there penciling in Marat Khusnutdinov or Alexander Khovanov as his 2C in two years time right now. You can't think that way.
No, you're looking for any and all opportunities to fill that need and as many options as possible with the hope that one of them hits. This is what
@TanSor was referring to when he said you can never have too many centers.
The analogy I like to use is the one that fits the best to my knowledge.
It's like the ammo chamber of a pistol revolver. The more rounds in the chamber the more chances of hitting the target.
The more young centers with upside you have the more chances you have that one of them hits and you get what you need and are looking for.
It's also not just about getting more young centers with upside for our center depth, it's about acquiring
better center depth at the NHL level.
Say for example these trades I proposed go through and the roster works out the way I intended. The potential center depth is far better than if we stand pat.
Phillip Danault: Middle-rung 2C, Top Six Center.
Marco Rossi: Low-end 1C/High-end 2C, Top Six Center/Top Line potential.
Morgan Frost: High-end 2C, Top Six Center potential.
Joel Eriksson-Ek: Low-end 2C/High-end 3C, Middle Six Center.
Nico Sturm: Middle-Rung 3C/High-end 4C, Bottom Six Center.
Victor Rask: Low-end 4C, Bottom Six Center.
Better center depth makes both Sturm and Rask expendable. They are no longer necessary and can be moved or bought out after the expansion draft because the player replacing them are simply better or have better higher potential.
Having a overabundance of too many of a certain position may be an issue. But acquiring and improving your depth and getting better players for said position should never be one.