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Team: 2020-21 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2021
Published: Feb. 14, 2021
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Saw this rumoured trade on FB. I know but let me know what you think.
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  1. Zboril, Jakub
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:11 a.m.
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Stop reading facebook.

The. Bruins. Aren’t. Trading. For. A. Defensemen.


Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and things change, but prior to the season starting you were complaining about a lack of moves by Sweeney to bring in a LHD and now you're saying they won't/shouldn't make a move for a LHD. Bruins are still weak on the LHD side though. I can understand wanting something better than Dunn to solidify the top pair, but they need something else.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:14 a.m.
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Not sure that is a fair assessment. Dunn is not very good defensively. Zboril is pretty sound in that regard but does not provide much offense though he moves the puck better than advertised. Blues are not deep on LD organizationally and if they can’t get the 1st they are looking for they might be willing to swap Dunn’s offense for Zboril’s D. The entire reason they are considering moving Dunn is they are fed up with his defense. The 2 have roughly the same value. Just depends on what you value more. Boston needs an PP QB, Blues looking to improve defensively, seems like a match really.

I think Blues will hold out fir the 1st while teams are looking at the Devon Toews trade as model.


Eh, not true. Blues have Mikkola and Perunovich for the left side who are both sound. Perunovich is projected to be better than Dunn and Mikkola is lesser Carlo. You add in Krug and Scandella (who isn't as horrible as people say) and they're pretty solid on the left. It's the right side that they need some prospects
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:15 a.m.
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Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and things change, but prior to the season starting you were complaining about a lack of moves by Sweeney to bring in a LHD and now you're saying they won't/shouldn't make a move for a LHD. Bruins are still weak on the LHD side though. I can understand wanting something better than Dunn to solidify the top pair, but they need something else.


Well, there’s a pretty big difference between won’t and shouldn’t. I kind of wanted the bruins to take an approach of, “screw the expansion draft, we’ll deal with taht when we get there.”

They’ve made it so clear that they have no interest in adding a d man. That idea is just dead. Talking about adding a d man is stupid. If the youngins falter (they haven’t yet), they’ll add someone at the deadline as a rental. Any talk about something more substantial is just a waste of time.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:17 a.m.
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Eh, not true. Blues have Mikkola and Perunovich for the left side who are both sound. Perunovich is projected to be better than Dunn and Mikkola is lesser Carlo. You add in Krug and Scandella (who isn't as horrible as people say) and they're pretty solid on the left. It's the right side that they need some prospects


Perunovich is comparable to Grizz but Mikkola is no Carlo. He’s a marginal NHLer.
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:18 a.m.
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Not sure that is a fair assessment. Dunn is not very good defensively. Zboril is pretty sound in that regard but does not provide much offense though he moves the puck better than advertised. Blues are not deep on LD organizationally and if they can’t get the 1st they are looking for they might be willing to swap Dunn’s offense for Zboril’s D. The entire reason they are considering moving Dunn is they are fed up with his defense. The 2 have roughly the same value. Just depends on what you value more. Boston needs an PP QB, Blues looking to improve defensively, seems like a match really. Keep in mind that Zboril was much higher regarded coming out of juniors, unlike Dunn he was buried behind Chara, Krug, Grizz and had to compete with a pair of other top 50 picks as well. Just because Dunn has been in the league longer at same age does no mean he is more advanced or a better option, they just had different circumstances.

I think Blues will hold out for the 1st while teams are looking at the Devon Toews trade as a model for a deal.


I’m not really sure the Bruins want/need a PP QB. They clearly wanted Grzelcyk to be that guy. They haven’t had a single full game where grzelcyk and pastrnak were in the lineup, so i think it’s safe to say they’ll want to wait to see that.

I think the problem they’re going to run into is mcavoy just bullying his way onto that unit. My guess is that they wanted to avoid that until they could put a long term extension in front of him, but I’m not sure they’ll be able to. Get ready for the first 8 figure cap hit in boston.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:20 a.m.
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Perunovich is comparable to Grizz but Mikkola is no Carlo. He’s a marginal NHLer.


I said lesser Carlo. Not as skilled as Carlo but he's a solid shut down d-man. He's no marginal NHLer by any means. Perunovich has more offensive upside than Gryz. Defensively about the same. Dunn can easily be the odd man out.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.
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I’m not really sure the Bruins want/need a PP QB. They clearly wanted Grzelcyk to be that guy. They haven’t had a single full game where grzelcyk and pastrnak were in the lineup, so i think it’s safe to say they’ll want to wait to see that.

I think the problem they’re going to run into is mcavoy just bullying his way onto that unit. My guess is that they wanted to avoid that until they could put a long term extension in front of him, but I’m not sure they’ll be able to. Get ready for the first 8 figure cap hit in boston.


They clearly NEEDED Grizz to be that guy. Wanted is a different story. The options available during the offseason were not worth pursuing outside of Schmidt whose cap hit would have a been a tough fit and despite being a left shot is a RD that they did not need.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
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They clearly NEEDED Grizz to be that guy. Wanted is a different story. The options available during the offseason were not worth pursuing outside of Schmidt whose cap hit would have a been a tough fit and despite being a left shot is a RD that they did not need.


Nah i think they want it. If they didn’t, krug would still be a bruin.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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Nah i think they want it. If they didn’t, krug would still be a bruin.


They wanted Krug back, just were not willing to give him 7 years. Don’t blame them. Teams need to stop extending players for big $ in their declining years. They will miss him for first half of that contract. For the second half they will be glad he’s elsewhere.
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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They wanted Krug back, just were not willing to give him 7 years. Don’t blame them. Teams need to stop extending players for big $ in their declining years. They will miss him for first half of that contract. For the second half they will be glad he’s elsewhere.


One thing that was ridiculously clear was that the bruins had no interest in bringing krug back.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.
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One thing that was ridiculously clear was that the bruins had no interest in bringing krug back.


Wrong. They were just not willing to overpay or overextend to do it. What was clear was Krug wanted out.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.
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Wrong. They were just not willing to overpay or overextend to do it. What was clear was Krug wanted out.


I think you need to do some reading about that situation pal. They didn’t even make him an offer after the season started. Signing in boston wasn’t an option for krug.
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:42 a.m.
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I think you need to do some reading about that situation pal. They didn’t even make him an offer after the season started. Signing in boston wasn’t an option for krug.


That’s not uncommon. Krugs side themselves said they would not negotiate during the season. During that offseason Krug said he’d take a discount to stay. A year later he left for an extra year. Do the math.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.
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That’s not uncommon. Krugs side themselves said they would not negotiate during the season. During that offseason Krug said he’d take a discount to stay. A year later he left for an extra year. Do the math.


Tough for you to do the math when you’re missing a whole lot of pieces of the equation. For example:
1. Krug lived in Boston year round (very few players want out when they live in a place year round)
2. Krug said about a million times that he wanted nothing more than to stay in boston.
3. Every report had him near desperate to stay in boston.
4. The bruins pulled their offer the second the season started, and never gave him another one.

Tough to sign in a place when they don’t offer you a contract.

Krug wanted to stay. Bruins didn’t have any interest. End of story. 2+2=4.
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:49 a.m.
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Tough for you to do the math when you’re missing a whole lot of pieces of the equation. For example:
1. Krug lived in Boston year round (very few players want out when they live in a place year round)
2. Krug said about a million times that he wanted nothing more than to stay in boston.
3. Every report had him near desperate to stay in boston.
4. The bruins pulled their offer the second the season started, and never gave him another one.

Tough to sign in a place when they don’t offer you a contract.

Krug wanted to stay. Bruins didn’t have any interest. End of story. 2+2=4.



They offered him 6 at 6.5 he left for 7 at 6.5 so ya, he did not want to stay. But hey don’t let facts get in the way of what you believe.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 9:59 a.m.
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Not sure that is a fair assessment. Dunn is not very good defensively. Zboril is pretty sound in that regard but does not provide much offense though he moves the puck better than advertised. Blues are not deep on LD organizationally and if they can’t get the 1st they are looking for they might be willing to swap Dunn’s offense for Zboril’s D. The entire reason they are considering moving Dunn is they are fed up with his defense. The 2 have roughly the same value. Just depends on what you value more. Boston needs an PP QB, Blues looking to improve defensively, seems like a match really. Keep in mind that Zboril was much higher regarded coming out of juniors, unlike Dunn he was buried behind Chara, Krug, Grizz and had to compete with a pair of other top 50 picks as well. Just because Dunn has been in the league longer at same age does no mean he is more advanced or a better option, they just had different circumstances.

I think Blues will hold out for the 1st while teams are looking at the Devon Toews trade as a model for a deal.



I'm not even going to get into your assessment of Dunn's game, his comparison to Zboril or the rumor that they're eager to move him, none of which I find accurate. I'm just going to point out that the Blues have LDs falling out of their ears, both now and for the future. It's the last thing they'd want back, especially a clearly inferior one.
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 10:08 a.m.
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I'm not even going to get into your assessment of Dunn's game, his comparison to Zboril or the rumor that they're eager to move him, none of which I find accurate. I'm just going to point out that the Blues have LDs falling out of their ears, both now and for the future. It's the last thing they'd want back, especially a clearly inferior one.



I don’t see a single LD in the pipeline that has clear top 4 potential. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe Perunovich. If you do, great.

It’s documented that he has been on the block for the very reasons i have said.

I also said i don’t think a Dunn Zboril swap makes sense for either team, i was playing devils advocate as to why it could work.

It will likely be for picks if they do move him.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.
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They offered him 6 at 6.5 he left for 7 at 6.5 so ya, he did not want to stay. But hey don’t let facts get in the way of what you believe.


They offered him 6x6.5 before the 2019-2020 season. When he signed, their offer was zero dollars at zero years.
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Feb. 15, 2021 at 10:47 a.m.
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They offered him 6x6.5 before the 2019-2020 season. When he signed, their offer was zero dollars at zero years.


According to him. According to everyone else...not true. Was widely reported by reputable sources that that offer was on the table when he signed with Blues and confirmed by management after he did. 2 sides to every story.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.
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According to him. According to everyone else...not true. Was widely reported by reputable sources that that offer was on the table when he signed with Blues and confirmed by management after he did. 2 sides to every story.


No it wasn’t.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
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No it wasn’t.


Lol, yes it was.

Pretty obvious what happened. Boston gave him their best offer early on. Out of respect. Krugs contends that there were no offers after that. Ok. Why would there be? That was their top offer. He wanted them to negotiate off of that. They were not going to. They told him up front that was it. He says it was pulled, every report says otherwise. After he signed Sweeney said he would not talk about players on another team but also said they could not agree to length of contract.

Fact - Boston offered 6x6.5 before season started.
Fact - there was never another offer from Boston as there was no reason to if they were not improving it
Contention - Krug says offered was pulled. Reports and Boston say otherwise.

Believe what you want.

Boston wanted him back on their terms. Krug was butthurt they did not expand on their offer and left over 1 year. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Feb. 15, 2021 at 12:21 p.m.
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Lol, yes it was.

Pretty obvious what happened. Boston gave him their best offer early on. Out of respect. Krugs contends that there were no offers after that. Ok. Why would there be? That was their top offer. He wanted them to negotiate off of that. They were not going to. They told him up front that was it. He says it was pulled, every report says otherwise. After he signed Sweeney said he would not talk about players on another team but also said they could not agree to length of contract.

Fact - Boston offered 6x6.5 before season started.
Fact - there was never another offer from Boston as there was no reason to if they were not improving it
Contention - Krug says offered was pulled. Reports and Boston say otherwise.

Believe what you want.

Boston wanted him back on their terms. Krug was butthurt they did not expand on their offer and left over 1 year. 🤷🏻‍♂️


This isn’t hard man. You just have to do a bit of reading about what happened. You’re coming out of this from a highly uneducated angle, with all these resources available to you. Your confidence in your standpoint, combined with your total lack of easily accessible knowledge makes you seem very ignorant and arrogant, and for that reason....I’m out.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 12:22 p.m.
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This isn’t hard man. You just have to do a bit of reading about what happened. You’re coming out of this from a highly uneducated angle, with all these resources available to you. Your confidence in your standpoint, combined with your total lack of easily accessible knowledge makes you seem very ignorant and arrogant, and for that reason....I’m out.


That’s your typical response when presented facts that don’t fit your belief.

Sept 28th 2020- The Sports Hub in Boston

The Boston Bruins remain in talks with pending unrestricted free agent Torey Krug, with their latest offer coming in at $6.5 million per year for the next six years, according to TSN's Frank Seravalli.

That would add up to $39 million over the next six years, and a modest $1.25 million per year raise from Krug's current salary. But based on the current chatter, with the Bruins exploring the idea of trading Krug's negotiating rights according to both Seravalli and Rear Admiral from Barstool Sports, Krug's camp is not interested in such a deal.


Just one of many sources stating such. 2 weeks later he signed with Blues.
Feb. 15, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.
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I think Sweeney should have scooped up Nate Schmidt. That would have been perfect fit especially for a low price tag.


Might have had a low price tag to acquire but not to have on team. 4 more years at 6M means you would have been cap challenged this year to say nothing about when Carlo, McAvoy, etc. get their new deals. Signing him also would preclude one of Zboril, Lauzon from playing and developing this year. Sweeney did right by staying away.
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I don’t see a single LD in the pipeline that has clear top 4 potential. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe Perunovich. If you do, great.

It’s documented that he has been on the block for the very reasons i have said.

I also said i don’t think a Dunn Zboril swap makes sense for either team, i was playing devils advocate as to why it could work.

It will likely be for picks if they do move him.


Maybe Perunovich? Oh brother...

And yeah, documented by lazy, purely speculative, unsubstantiated clickbait nonsense. Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out why anyone imagines that a team chasing another Cup trades a strong regular for picks. It's past time to realize you've formed a skewed view of this situation. Dunn isn't up for grabs. He's now partnering Parayko, in fact.
 
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