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Floating Newhook due to panic mode in the fanbase

Created by: Anus_McLeod
Initial Creation Date: Feb 25, 2021
Published: Feb 26 at 10:45
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
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I'm not advocating in favor of trading Newhook. On the contrary, I am a very big fan of his game and really want to keep him. However, maybe there is discussion to be had if the team can acquire a youngish C (or, in only one instance, an aging superstar with term) in return.

Obviously there would be more to the trades than just a straight swaps below for both value and salary purposes (especially the last one, ha ha).

Any opinions on whether he could be moved for someone like the below? Anyone else that should be included in the list (or taken off)?
Trades
COL
  1. Dvorak, Christian
ARI
    Newhook
    COL
    1. Hertl, Tomas ($625,000 retained)
    SJS
      Newhook
      COL
      1. Horvat, Bo ($500,000 retained)
      VAN
        Newhook
        COL
        1. Monahan, Sean ($1,375,000 retained)
        CGY
          Newhook
          COL
          1. Zibanejad, Mika ($350,000 retained)
          NYR
            Newhook
            COL
            1. Crosby, Sidney ($1,200,000 retained)
            PIT
              Newhook
              Retained Salary Transactions
              • Ian Cole: $800,000 (19%)
              Buried
              • Greg Pateryn: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
              DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
              2021
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              2022
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              2023
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              COL
              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
              6$81,500,000$33,925,000$0$0$47,575,000
              Left WingCenterRight Wing
              ARI
              Dvorak, Christian
              $4,450,000
              C, LW
              UFA - 5
              SJS
              Hertl, Tomas
              $5,000,000
              C, RW
              NTC
              UFA - 2
              VAN
              Horvat, Bo
              $5,000,000
              C
              UFA - 3
              CGY
              Monahan, Sean
              $5,000,000
              C
              NTC
              UFA - 3
              NYR
              Zibanejad, Mika
              $5,000,000
              C
              NMC
              UFA - 2
              PIT
              Crosby, Sidney
              $7,500,000
              C
              NMC
              UFA - 5
              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
              ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
              COL
              Johnson, Erik
              $6,000,000
              RD
              NMC NTC
              UFA - 3
              COL
              Werner, Adam
              $842,500
              G
              RFA - 1
              COL
              Girard, Samuel
              $5,000,000
              LD
              UFA - 7
              COL
              Graves, Ryan
              $3,166,667
              LD
              UFA - 3
              COL
              Byram, Bowen
              $894,167
              LD
              RFA - 3
              COL
              Makar, Cale
              $880,833
              RD
              RFA - 1
              COL
              Timmins, Conor
              $925,000
              RD
              RFA - 1
              COL
              Grubauer, Philipp
              $3,333,333
              G
              UFA - 1
              COL
              Gilbert, Dennis
              $925,000
              LD
              RFA - 1
              COL
              Calvert, Matt
              $2,850,000
              LW, RW
              UFA - 1
              COL
              Toews, Devon
              $4,100,000
              LD
              UFA - 4
              COL
              O'Connor, Logan
              $725,000
              RW
              RFA - 2
              COL
              Compher, J.T.
              $3,500,000
              RW, C
              UFA - 3
              COL
              Kaut, Martin
              $863,333
              RW
              RFA - 3
              COL
              Nichushkin, Valeri
              $2,500,000
              LW, RW
              UFA - 2
              COL
              Jost, Tyson
              $874,125
              C, LW, RW
              RFA - 1
              COL
              Kadri, Nazem
              $4,500,000
              C
              NTC
              UFA - 2
              COL
              Burakovsky, André
              $4,900,000
              LW, RW
              UFA - 2
              COL
              Francouz, Pavel
              $2,000,000
              G
              UFA - 2
              COL
              Rantanen, Mikko
              $9,250,000
              RW
              UFA - 5
              COL
              Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
              $1,800,000
              C, LW
              UFA - 1
              COL
              MacKinnon, Nathan
              $6,300,000
              C, RW
              NTC
              UFA - 3
              COL
              Landeskog, Gabriel
              $5,571,429
              LW, C
              NTC
              UFA - 1
              COL
              Donskoi, Joonas
              $3,900,000
              RW
              UFA - 3
              COL
              Saad, Brandon
              $5,000,000
              RW, LW
              NTC
              UFA - 1
              Taxi Squad
              COL
              Dries, Sheldon
              $771,750 ($0)
              C
              UFA - 1
              COL
              MacDonald, Jacob
              $725,000 ($0)
              LD
              UFA - 2
              COL
              Renouf, Daniel
              $700,000 ($0)
              LD
              UFA - 1
              COL
              Jones, Peyton
              $700,000 ($0)
              G
              RFA - 1

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              Feb 26 at 10:48
              #1
              KFTW
              Joined: Jul 2018
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              They should only do it for Hertl or a Zibanejad
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              Feb 26 at 10:49
              #2
              Lenny7
              Joined: Jan 2017
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              My opinion is that Newhook is a fine prospect, but isn't the headliner in any of these trades.

              Edit: Sorry, I was thinking Beucage. Don't mind me...
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              Feb 26 at 10:51
              #3
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              lmaooo the Canucks aren't trading Horvat for someone who might be as good
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              Feb 26 at 10:55
              #4
              Thread Starter
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              Quoting: Lenny7
              My opinion is that Newhook is a fine prospect, but isn't the headliner in any of these trades.

              Edit: Sorry, I was thinking Beucage. Don't mind me...


              Lol I was about to ask why you are down in Newhook. He's a pretty good headliner in most trades.
              Feb 26 at 10:57
              #5
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              Quoting: TheAlien
              lmaooo the Canucks aren't trading Horvat for someone who might be as good


              Even with the description I figured I'd get at least one of these types of responses. Thanks for the reply!
              Feb 26 at 11:03
              #6
              Joined: Jul 2018
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              Quoting: Anus_McLeod
              Even with the description I figured I'd get at least one of these types of responses. Thanks for the reply!


              You would need to add something like Byram for the Canucks to even consider it.

              Before you respond, consider that Horvat is the captain on a very good deal. Wanting Vancouver to retain salary on top of that is really asking for a lot.
              Feb 26 at 11:09
              #7
              Ovchinnikov 137
              Joined: Apr 2019
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              I guess if your looking for a 2C then this isn’t the guy but IMO Cizikas would be a nice add for a 3C. If NYI are selling
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              Feb 26 at 11:10
              #8
              Kuokkanen Fanpage
              Joined: Nov 2017
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              I say keep Newhook. Even though it would be great to get any of these centers, Newhook on ELC would be valuable to the Avs
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              Feb 26 at 11:26
              #9
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              Quoting: sedin33
              You would need to add something like Byram for the Canucks to even consider it.

              Before you respond, consider that Horvat is the captain on a very good deal. Wanting Vancouver to retain salary on top of that is really asking for a lot.


              The retention was more to get everyone to $5M but it wouldn't be necessary. In terms of adding, Colorado could add but certainly not Byram. There are very few players in the league worth both Newhook and Byram.

              That said, I can see why Vancouver wouldn't move him. I considered him one of the longer shots on this list. If there was a rift between him and the organization then it could be possible. I know there is nothing to that effect now though. Figured no harm including him in this post though.
              Feb 26 at 11:36
              #10
              Servant of Chaos
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              Rangers would want more
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              Feb 26 at 11:41
              #11
              Log off the internet
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              I'd say either Hertl or Monahan would be the best trade for everyone involved: the Avalanche, the Sharks or Flames, and the players.
              Both San Jose and Calgary could use Newhook and I think Hertl/Monahan could thrive on Colorado.
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              Feb 26 at 1:27
              #12
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              Avs should keep Newhook and instead use the rest of their prospect pool in a trade for a middle 6 C.
               
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